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From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 21:39:27 -0800
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On 12/19/2024 07:57 PM, Lynn McGuire wrote:
> On 12/19/2024 9:53 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote:
> ...
>> It's mind-boggling that for hundreds of years at
>> least there were printed books, mass-printed or
>> since the invention of printing presses and movable
>> type, and that for at least 150 years there's been
>> photography, for where the graphical renditions
>> were painting or drawing, or statuary or what,
>> that since about 25 years ago there are small-screen
>> full-motion high-resolution displays, each different
>> yet all same, yet of course it is still in a sense
>> pixels, blits, drawing primitives, and sprites,
>> vis-a-vis the procedural and high-level procedural,
>> sadly an entire generation is myopic and reading has
>> suffered, I think screens should be banned for youth,
>> so they have to learn how to read to get their giggles,
>> though that's impractical, point being that somebody
>> needs to know the entire stack of the things at
>> least in gross detail that thusly the efforts of
>> "make a new one", while daunting, at least have
>> a total embarrassment of computing resources the
>> hardware, that if all the lately bloatware and
>> various other kinds of wares that are of no interest
>> to the user of the device, were gone, then implementors
>> of course can make astounding demos, and even simple
>> entire systems that are all quite bog-standard.
> ...
>
> That is all ONE sentence.  I am impressed !
>
> Lynn
>
>

When I read Stroustrup's C++ book, I read the special
and third edition, and the great book on stdio streams,
or Kreft and Langer, among things like Harbison and
Steele and Schildt of course and Kernighan and Ritchie
after C, C++, the "closure of scope" of C++ was
the profound concept, and including exceptions -
the semantics of constructor and destructor
and the rule of three and these things, have
that after gaining some facility in C, and writing
context structs and otherwise user data,
"C++, Third Edition", very much helped moved
from pointers to references, though so often
practically it's pointers. Then of course there's
all the "Effective" of good practices and things like
COM and ATL and what were at the time so usual
and these days are the same.


Mrs. Chapman, the seventh grade English teacher,
made everyone demonstrate that they could
diagram any sentence, requiring of course
the knowledge in vocabulary the part of speech
of each word, that, it is after Tesniere and dependency
grammars, that languages like English, have a diagram,
and just like other what may be larger graphs with
edges of various meanings there is that "graph layout"
is something that starts small yet has for Tesniere
and dependency grammars then that something
like Curme helps arrive at something simpler than
Cambridge, grammar.

Yeah, sometimes it's worse, one time I put a writing
sample into one of those grade level estimators
and it said "grade 26", ..., whereas everybody knows
that the newspaper is about "grade 6".

So, by seventh grade, all were expected to be able
to diagram any sentence, and, read the paper front-to-back.


https://www.wordcalc.com/readability/


If you actually enjoy this then in my podcasts
I also speak this way though unfortunately
many "uhs" and word-stuttering of a sort.
Sometimes computing is discussed.
https://www.youtube.com/@rossfinlayson



Warm regards, warm regards