Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 00:42:58 +0000
Subject: Re: News : ARM Trying to Buy AmperComputing
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
References: <_hycnQxlN5kAphr6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <36bf96a5-527c-1d8b-a93b-6788cdd589a2@example.net>
 <1PKcna3Yf6vdFhX6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <b0808927-ab4c-5c09-69db-608552e94989@example.net>
 <vmapu2$3foi7$2@dont-email.me>
 <7b19252d-bfe8-9d48-0cd2-eb33e4a64179@example.net> <67897bb3@news.ausics.net>
 <lutkoeF1tatU1@mid.individual.net>
 <6d5c7f67-7c7b-66aa-d9d3-54f71f77ae43@example.net>
 <luvpr9Fc5laU3@mid.individual.net>
 <198f4f8c-a0d0-7caf-b67e-1f61fee9de41@example.net>
 <UcicndjNUaEg0hH6nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <35e42921-5781-8728-236f-afad1d3b56b1@example.net>
 <vSydnd3xKfdNFhD6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@earthlink.com>
 <7258fd01-44f7-850d-3f69-54b93489f64d@example.net>
 <vml7e7$31s95$1@dont-email.me>
 <69ce04cf-80a7-7170-675f-4165ffedc92b@example.net>
From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Organization: wokiesux
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2025 19:42:59 -0500
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101
 Thunderbird/78.13.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <69ce04cf-80a7-7170-675f-4165ffedc92b@example.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Language: en-US
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Message-ID: <RtudnVi93qkPcBP6nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
Lines: 56
X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97
X-Trace: sv3-wm2ZW7F24ZQirlG9E4/IDcOj28sV6YKbsDE8zHlME0m9z+jFQhhBffPg0qm7pCKo+BOxr5o/xiZi4F0!JgRwCmvMgup1L6V6p95oqZX2QrT+ABeiMIUFbvOq4RxsgfMW7jyTwB1R+IUSAzSQxGomCL87RrTa!lndLTe8dvy7tNiRrgAYl
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
Bytes: 3979

On 1/20/25 3:53 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 20/01/2025 09:30, D wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  The Pi hat or OMV ?
>>>
>>> The pi, with directly connected spinning disks. Does the hat have its 
>>> own extra power supply?
>>
>> I've managed to get a P4 I think to run one spinning rust disk without 
>> extra power.
>> Strictly it depends on the disk.
>> The pi hat for 5 drives has an external 60W PSU
> 
> Ahh, if it has an external PSU then there is no problem. Ideally, if the 
> pi hat for 5 drives is intended to accomodate 5 spinning drives, it 
> would be nice if it did so at full speeds.


   One review said the WRITEs were a little pokey,
   but not TOO bad. READs were apparently snappy.

   This is OK ... most stuff on HDDs is "write once /
   read more often".


> Given that the server manufacturers seem to no longer want to produce 
> smaller, cheaper nodes, but only want to sell huge GPU machines, I'm 
> contemplating if it actually might not be possible to build a nice 
> archive solution on pi:s, spinning disks and a few cards at a good price.
> 
> To be continued... as the saying goes.

   Yep ... lemme get in and fool with my 5-drive unit
   a bit and I'll write a hands-on report. The price
   is good enough (the DRIVES are $$$ alas)

   Even without the SATA hat ... you CAN run a number
   of external USB 3.x drives from a Pi. Won't be as
   quick, but it works OK.

   And yea, I know what you mean about everybody trending
   towards "overkill" boxes/systems. Better $ margin I guess.
   Still no shortage of motherboards - so you can build
   your own "appropriate" boxes.

   For an NAS, it's the drive speeds that are kinda the
   limiting factor, so even a 'slow' motherboard won't
   hurt anything. It's all I/O-bound.

   The popular Sinology canned NAS units - 4/6/8/12 drive
   units with multiple network plugs - all use basically
   laptop-grade 'Celeron' grade processors.