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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 22:30:14 +0000 Subject: Re: How many different unit fractions are lessorequal than all unit fractions? (infinitary) Newsgroups: sci.math References: <vb4rde$22fb4$2@solani.org> <veor6u$2asus$1@dont-email.me> <2b6f9104-a927-49ee-9cf0-6ee3f82edc23@att.net> <verkkk$2r6kk$1@dont-email.me> <verlk6$4dv$1@news.muc.de> <vermdv$2s24h$1@dont-email.me> <verv6f$2oo0$1@news.muc.de> <e4d00f83-42df-4f14-a007-4a90f3b5d644@tha.de> <vf085m$1gf6$1@news.muc.de> <vf0cpf$3t4q1$1@dont-email.me> <vf0feo$2un7$1@news.muc.de> <vf0ovc$3v3cv$1@dont-email.me> <vf0qev$2fe9$1@news.muc.de> <47ada01f-e2a7-42e7-bb63-390a73412938@tha.de> <vf0tdu$2fe9$2@news.muc.de> <vf0vo9$6c6$2@dont-email.me> <vf1a1a$23so$1@dont-email.me> <vUadnRL0bdQOson6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2024 15:30:28 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vUadnRL0bdQOson6nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <SS-dnZH1Utlrr4n6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 69 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-Q66csCbxDGMcOSgTrnc76XxfqmdZZ35NNTfrPMezERcHT1475LkcOM39XIEwRj+YwGW3MIaHWEJ5uFm!I0szz0EKsReHbAkHYoTc1DzA0SLG4QyjLoLOdhjgiQaF5ITRxggklOgsq2JJSOSV3OTxVBTNzCkl X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4105 On 10/19/2024 03:16 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 10/19/2024 02:57 PM, FromTheRafters wrote: >> WM used his keyboard to write : >>> On 19.10.2024 20:22, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>>> WM <wolfgang.mueckenheim@tha.de> wrote: >>> >>>> An infinite set is one which has a proper subset which can be >>>> put into 1-1 correspondence with the original set. That is the >>>> definition. >>> >>> According to Dedekind every set {1, 2, 3, ..., n} is in correspondence >>> with the set {2, 4, 6, ..., 2n} which covers twice the interval, >>> containing numbers not in the original set. This does not change when >>> the whole set ℕ is multiplied by 2. The result covers twice the >>> interval, containing numbers not in the original set ℕ. >> >> Intervals now? Discrete ones or real ones? > > The usual term for how an interval could be anything > less is called a "de-generate" interval, that it's not > generated by infinite divisibility a generate (n.), > sort of like "quasi-invariant", "pseudo-differential", > "degenerate interval", this kind of thing. > > I.e. that's the term for that concept the idea. > > If you have it, .... > > > Sort of like, "calling something that's unknown or undefined or strange 'weird' is, in a sense of language, like 'degenerate'". That is to say it's stupid. So, the "degenerate interval" of mathematics isn't necessarily good nor bad, in the usual vulgar sense that it's bad, and is intended to reflect that when the prototype event of the term-wise addition and the _carry_ bit, _carries_, in the sense of an un-bounded sequence that the sequence "rolling over" is called "carry", when the otherwise un-limited operation, here halving as a placeholder for "the property of being divisible as dividing into two parts", then the notion of "degenerate" interval is what according to deductive inference must have been arrived at. I.e. it so follows. Then, not so much speaking to the massively degenerate the dumbing-down of the feuilletons and concepts of popular culture like the queering of differences or such crap, there are already words for these concepts that are under-defined in usually the standard, because mathematics is thoroughly explored both standard and non-standard. Stupid-heads