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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 21:51:57 +0000 From: Tyrone <none@none.none> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Do Microsoft?sCopilot+ PCs Require Linux? X-No-Archive: Yes References: <v2k7km$12v2d$1@dont-email.me> <qnbu4j1li5mgjm6gm0l5o3kvku94179t9u@4ax.com> <QNWdnbsVQuRa29L7nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@supernews.com> <jd5v4jh01l2cobjil6k7tjpuj6g8ricb1q@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Usenapp for MacOS X-Usenapp: v1.27.2/l - Full License Message-ID: <SXCdnZlYANrgJ9L7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@supernews.com> Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 21:51:57 +0000 Lines: 41 X-Trace: sv3-unp92kAuOQlZexHoGLdzs9wUo5VZFRnlO2n6bI/rj/hFv9vL88gKrraNoYPdSNm57ZCV8znTH9qfFXa!8qjXlLSCxjOKWzrH8lO9V4n5xj44cP/yfzpaUQfJvpbpfV6gK924hCn+TduJV/4+d6eCmK5BwuE0!krWtFta2Vx4= X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3205 On May 23, 2024 at 3:19:39 PM EDT, "Joel" <joelcrump@gmail.com> wrote: > Windows is a *type of* monopoly, in that only M$ controls it, but it > is used as a general OS. There is no such thing as "a type of monopoly". Either you are or you are not. The legal definition is very clear. You can't have a monopoly on your own product. If that were the case then Harley Davidson has a "monopoly" on Sportsters and McDonalds has a "monopoly" on Big Macs. But that's not how it works. Monopolies exist is markets. Not products. There is plenty of competition in motorcycles and hamburgers. Apple can not have a "monopoly" on iPhones for the same reason. > But macOS isn't really less so, it just > isn't seen as a "monopoly" because of lower market share, but what's > the difference? It's a proprietary OS. I can't run native Mac > software without a Mac, unless I have some kind of emulation scheme. You can't run native Linux software without Linux either, unless you have some kind of emulation scheme. Is Linux a "monopoly"? Proprietary has nothing to do with being a monopoly. Monopoly means you have 97% of the market and are actively buying up/shutting down competitors. Having a successful product does not make you a monopoly. Hell, people are trying to claim that Apple is a monopoly with 25% of the phone market! That is impossible. There is TONS of competition in the phone market. Hint: U.S. anti-trust laws are in place to protect consumers. Not competitors. Epic Games and Spotify whining about Apple means nothing. No one is forcing either to support Apple. If you don't like the terms of the contracts you sign with Apple, then you are free to tell Apple to Fuck Off and not sign the contracts. If enough companies did this, Apple might change their ways. But whining to lawyers is going to go nowhere. As the judge in the Apple/Epic case famously said, "Being successful is not against the law".