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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <S_7TAnZOOQo9uB-CpYEDWkML0_Y@jntp> JNTP-Route: news2.nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Absolute Insanity References: <2e4cf934a593d0e19854a5da168560c1@www.novabbs.com> <nB7aRJLaUqJ28rWlq1Q30arOW-o@jntp> <9c6465bd694526de59b67b0910ccf4a1@www.novabbs.com> <R0JHJcwGHe9_LJmn8sD9clNY-Rw@jntp> <17cd5232b9b09e47$238031$261710$c2065a8b@news.newsdemon.com> <R6znaLrGLzGFMA_J9zUCgBswivc@jntp> <17cd6af28aebced8$301165$253407$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: zhsslolSjhIHFDabcLEwiDMFwEg JNTP-ThreadID: 2e4cf934a593d0e19854a5da168560c1@www.novabbs.com JNTP-Uri: http://news2.nemoweb.net/?DataID=S_7TAnZOOQo9uB-CpYEDWkML0_Y@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/0.999a JNTP-OriginServer: news2.nemoweb.net Date: Wed, 08 May 24 12:06:05 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/124.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: news2.nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-05-08T12:06:05Z/8848853"; posting-account="4@news2.nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@wanadou.fr> Bytes: 5255 Lines: 82 Le 08/05/2024 à 07:03, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : > W dniu 07.05.2024 o 23:38, Richard Hachel pisze: >> Le 07/05/2024 à 23:30, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >>> W dniu 07.05.2024 o 22:50, Richard Hachel pisze: >> >>>> We come back a little to Langevin's traveler, >>>> or other problems of special relativity >>>> that I have been asking for some forty years. >>>> That is to say that communications would be impossible and that we >>>> could never get around the problem of causality. >>>> >>>> Thus, an observer could instantly visit one hundred thousand stars, >>>> without this posing any problems in terms of time (negligible proper >>>> time). >>>> >>>> But when he came back to tell us everything he saw in the future of >>>> the universe, the earth would already have this same information, >>>> since it itself would have aged a hundred thousand years. >>>> >>>> Space travel is therefore definitively solved with Dr. Hachel's >>>> equations. We will be able to reach any star or galaxy instantly or >>>> almost, why not. But in Earth's frame of reference it will still take >>>> thousands or billions of years? >>> >>> And in the meantime in the real world - forbidden >>> by idiots like you "improper and inaccurate" clocks >>> keep measuring t'=t, just like all serious clocks >>> always did. >> >> Is it true that you are Polish? > > Yes. > >> >> Which region of Poland are you from? > > Gdansk. > >> >> What are your skills in theoretical physics? > > I have no skills in mad mystical mumbling > about some delusional Laws of some delusional > Higher Force. > But I have some skills in dealing with > informational devices, like clocks or > observers. It doesn't take much scientific knowledge to realize that physicists' brains are not mentally healthy. Saying that we are going to enter a black hole in the shape of spaghetti and that we are going to come out of the other through a white fountain into another universe, that's still being a little sick. The solution to all this, or the unveiling of the problem, is almost religious. We must return to the ancient wisdom which we so lack today, with wokism, crazy capitalism, Islamism, and all these antics which should have gone, in normal societies, into the dustbin of history. "But you guys are seriously ill, if you weren't seriously ill, I would have told you. But there you are, you are seriously ill, and you really need a good doctor." So yes, indeed physicists, like all other men (especially religious people) are "a little sick". But what follows is poignant and distressing, and it should make any serious man cry. "But you say: we are not sick, we feel very well. In this you are wrong, and you make all useful preaching vain." Now, having said that, you shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. We should not reject everything in science, obviously. When you look at the Concorde or the Tupolev, when you look at a 4K screen, when you study the accelerated particles, you say to yourself: “They still worked well”. There are obviously quite a few truths in their science. So you have to find the right environment. If you don't tighten your guitar string enough, it will make a muffled and unpleasant sound. But if you stretch it too much it breaks. By refuting simple things, like the dilation of chronotropies (I didn't say times, because there we have to talk about elasticity and not just dilation), you are throwing the baby out with the bathwater. And then you become counterproductive. You divert the flow of science more than you remove the dross from it. R.H.