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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2024 03:20:18 +0000 Subject: Re: The joy of FORTRAN Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc,alt.folklore.computers References: <pan$96411$d204da43$cc34bb91$1fe98651@linux.rocks> <5mqdnZuGq4lgwm_7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vcub5c$36h63$1@dont-email.me> <36KdnVlGJu9VLW77nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <IfZIO.214180$FzW1.122138@fx14.iad> <ZLecncKpCfSfT2n7nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@earthlink.com> <ZOfJO.194439$kxD8.179224@fx11.iad> <vd4hgd$c3jf$8@dont-email.me> <AxicncFTKaRW52L7nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdnvk0$49ai$2@dont-email.me> <o8icnRRnt4ChGGL7nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@earthlink.com> <vdo3j6$4q92$1@dont-email.me> <lm9kg6Ft2vgU2@mid.individual.net> <vdpi96$bgk6$7@dont-email.me> <lmb9k2F64inU8@mid.individual.net> <vdqlcs$lo51$1@dont-email.me> From: "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> Organization: wokiesux Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2024 23:20:17 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vdqlcs$lo51$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <TKqcnfnts-lvnJ_6nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 21 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 99.101.150.97 X-Trace: sv3-qgV20zob+xRQ9KjdMVSiR9jUNthg3VYTIMrj/Bb2sGtCB5Cg2MbyQD7oIMSBnGmcTjGonhToINo6WwY!U4XY0wXy5lHU6aDtfGXDeS+9I4kff+WPmO4eWpbBzm5UFuhL8uWB05HtQ8hKAbv++paDnt72KPK4!Hge/n1kFc5rB3GeK5700 X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2605 On 10/5/24 2:12 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On 4 Oct 2024 22:47:30 GMT, rbowman wrote: > >> ... many people using a high level abstraction like Python think >> of it as some sort of magic ... > > What we have seen in this thread (and others) is many of the younger ones > think C is that “magic” out of which all else is woven. MOSTLY true ... Well, in the end, it's the CPU microcoding ... all else is just a way to make use of that :-) Almost everything in Python ... well, it's a 'C' app really, just made to LOOK like another computer language. Quite a number are even more like that, the GNU compilers especially. They're just syntax translators, turn your 'FORTRAN' or 'COBOL' or FORTH or whatever into kinda unreadable 'C' to then be compiled.