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From: Mike Terry <news.dead.person.stones@darjeeling.plus.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 19:37:39 +0100
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On 16/08/2024 12:59, olcott wrote:
> On 8/16/2024 1:57 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>> Op 15.aug.2024 om 21:39 schreef olcott:
>>
>> It is clear that olcott does not really read what I write. (Or is very short of memory.)
>> I never said such a thing.
>> I repeatedly told that the 
> 
> *YOUR MISTAKE*
>> simulating HHH aborted when the simulated HHH had only one cycle to go.
> That is WRONG. The outermost directly executed HHH aborts
> as soon as it has seen enough of the emulated execution
> trace to correctly predict that an unlimited execution
> would never stop running.
> 
> *With abort as soon as you know*
> *there is never one more cycle to go*
> 
> *MIKES CORRECTION OF YOUR MISTAKE*
> On 8/14/2024 10:07 AM, Mike Terry wrote:
>  > On 14/08/2024 08:43, joes wrote:
>  >> HHH simulates DDD��� enter the matrix
>  >>��� DDD calls HHH(DDD)��� Fred: could be eliminated
>  >>��� HHH simulates DDD��� second level
>  >>����� DDD calls HHH(DDD)��� recursion detected
>  >>��� HHH aborts, returns��� outside interference
>  >>��� DDD halts������� voila
>  >> HHH halts
>  >
>  > You're misunderstanding the scenario?� If your simulated
>  > HHH aborts its simulation [line 5 above],
> 
> *THIS PART RIGHT HERE*
>  > then the outer level H would have aborted its
>  > identical simulation earlier. You know that, right?
> 
>  > [It's what people have been discussing
>  > here endlessly for the last few months! :) ]
>  >
>  > So your trace is impossible...
>  >

I supposed that I should be annoyed that you deliberately ignore my request to stop misrepresting my 
views and opinions.  You /know/ I don't agree with how you're misusing my words - but you do it anyway.

But the fact that even with a direct warning that you are misunderstanding, you still go ahead and 
repeat your nonsense in the end just becomes FUNNY.  :)

Of course, nothing I said above supports your claims for what it is saying.  I could challenge you 
to justify your claims, but that would just waste everybody's time.  You are just intellectually 
incapable of discussing this topic.  (Not your "fault", you're not being lazy or anything, it's just 
how your brain is wired.)


Mike.