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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <UIdzdVLJ9_wb6WmCm-cvy4bha8g@jntp> JNTP-Route: nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: the notion of relativity of simultaneity References: <t5AySA2aWT46Ra7AsAZqm8Hc3GM@jntp> <3816ef2676ce1aa6a8c37d69bc10aa33@www.novabbs.com> <CLH8zZ8XoLet8tC7KBErRRKWR7I@jntp> <ve5j7i$2jthj$1@dont-email.me> <XuyIJaxfFTfruSPJR8bWBtrAGq4@jntp> <ve81ld$333o4$1@dont-email.me> <YjSiiwllgxjO8USCxPs2jYwEQ3E@jntp> <vear43$3k24l$1@dont-email.me> <lmujuuF5spvU1@mid.individual.net> <vede3t$3tmm$1@dont-email.me> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: 25nO6QNRI0t8F6mgX2kXFV4Pf1Q JNTP-ThreadID: M03ir3sQnaKnoNUOGTo8wLgKNI8 JNTP-Uri: https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=UIdzdVLJ9_wb6WmCm-cvy4bha8g@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/1.0 JNTP-OriginServer: nemoweb.net Date: Sat, 12 Oct 24 11:56:56 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/129.0.0.0 Safari/537.36 Injection-Info: nemoweb.net; posting-host="e8cbf2474b472b9bb79db3dccb6a856bc1d05409"; logging-data="2024-10-12T11:56:56Z/9057960"; posting-account="4@nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@liscati.fr.invalid> Bytes: 3858 Lines: 59 Le 12/10/2024 à 11:05, Mikko a écrit : > >> This is actually not true, because the world which SRT describes isn't >> the world we live in. > > A failed attempt is still an attempt. Therefore your "because" is wrong. > SR is an attempt to describe the world. Later it was found out that the > world is different but that does not affect what SR is. > >> SRT is about a world, where all thinfgs drift around in a dark and >> starless void, > > No, it is not. SR is about the geometry of the world, not about its matter > content except that the matter content must be compatible with the geometry. SR is first and foremost an attempt to explain the Michelson-Morley experiment. The calculation shows that, according to the experiment, w=v+c=c Which is absurd. We must therefore understand why it is absurd, and why it is at the same time true. I have explained these things. These things represent the very basis of the whole theory, and they extend not only to Galilean frames of reference in uniform translations, but also to rotating frames of reference, and to uniformly accelerated frames of reference. I have also explained the Langevin paradox, the Andromeda paradox, and the Ehrenfest paradox. The solution that we have been struggling with since 1905 is incredibly simple, and it is very disconcerting to see that the human mind voluntarily, stubbornly, refuses to validate it. Probably artificial intelligence will soon be able to come into play, and declare: "But what are you doing with your theory of relativity? Everything is dramatically obvious, how can you not understand how the nature of simultaneity works? How is it possible that for more than 120 years you have said everything backwards and in complete, COMPLETE confusion?" Today's question, asked by Dr. Richard Hachel (Napoli Congress 2009): Do you know the reason why this mathematical absurdity is nevertheless true? W=v+c=c whatever v. A seven-year-old child, informed by Hachel, will start laughing. While the physicists, full of stupidity and arrogance, will drown. "A seven-year-old child will lead them" says the Bible. We must not spit on the prophecies of the ancients. They weren't that stupid. R.H.