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From: Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr>
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Le 16/03/2024 à 14:18, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
> Den 15.03.2024 15:20, skrev Richard Hachel:
>> Le 15/03/2024 à 15:11, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
>>> I am saying that SR does not predict that accelerated objects
>>> will behave as you claim they do.
>> 
>> We agree.
>> The SR does not predict things the way I predict them.
> 
> Right. You predict them like Newton did.
> 
> Richard Hachel's equations:
>   Speed of rocket in inertial frame:             Vr=a.Tr
>   Average speed of rocket in the inertial frame: Vrm=(1/2)Vr
> 
> Are correct only in Newtonian Mechanics with Galilean relativity.
> 
> So Richard Hachel's theory is identical to Newtonian Mechanics.

 Absolutely not. 
> 
> 
>> The problem, although enormous, is that experimentally I am credible and 
>> not the SR which cannot explain instantaneous transfers of information.
> 
> Why should SR "explain" what doesn't exist?
> 
> You know of course that SR is thoroughly experimentally verified
> and never falsified, while NM is falsified.
> 
>> and that theoretically I do not have the enormous concern of completely 
>> inconsistent apparent speeds. if only in a simple Langevin paradox.
> 
> Are there "inconsistent apparent speeds" in the "twin paradox"? :-D

 Je vous supplie de comprendre ce que je dis avant de juger.

 Vous ne le faites pas.

 Ce n'est pas à la hauteur d'un homme tel que vous, que je reconnais, 
moi, pour un très bon posteur.

R.H.