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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 22:36:19 +0000 Subject: Re: Incompleteness of Cantor's enumeration of the rational numbers (extra-ordinary, effectively) Newsgroups: sci.math References: <vg7cp8$9jka$1@dont-email.me> <vjreik$1lokm$1@dont-email.me> <8d69d6cd-76bc-4dc1-894e-709d044e68a1@att.net> <vjst0u$1tqvv$3@dont-email.me> <7356267c-491b-45c2-b86a-d40c45dfa40c@att.net> <vjufr6$29khr$3@dont-email.me> <4bf8a77e-4b2a-471f-9075-0b063098153f@att.net> <vjv6uv$2dra0$1@dont-email.me> <31180d7e-1c2b-4e2b-b8d6-e3e62f05da43@att.net> <vk1brk$2srss$7@dont-email.me> <bb80c6c5-04c0-4e2d-bb21-ac51aab9e252@att.net> <vk23m7$31l8v$1@dont-email.me> <bce1b27d-170c-4385-8938-36805c983c49@att.net> <vk693m$f52$2@dont-email.me> <a17eb8b6-7d11-4c59-b98c-b4d5de8358ca@att.net> <vk7dmb$7mh2$2@dont-email.me> <b72490c1-e61a-4c23-a3a5-f624b2c084e4@att.net> <vk8tbq$j9h1$1@dont-email.me> <bd7dfdc7-6471-4fe6-b078-0ca739031580@att.net> <vklumc$3htmt$1@dont-email.me> <c03cf79d-0572-4b19-ad92-a0d12df53db9@att.net> <n9CdnR02SsevtPL6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@giganews.com> <45a632ed-26cc-4730-a8dd-1e504d6df549@att.net> <vkpa98$dofu$2@dont-email.me> <15f183ae29abb8c09c0915ee3c8355634636da31@i2pn2.org> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2024 14:36:23 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15f183ae29abb8c09c0915ee3c8355634636da31@i2pn2.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <UY-cndwXAt7-4O36nZ2dnZfqnPYAAAAA@giganews.com> Lines: 62 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-qMw83VrcWkRfEulPzMgf8ieDfkfcJhDtXFmTjRHouX/pGtRlqgGn0cPGlsAXsJ3pmd2hYxzbxNZkDCS!pNZI2tkYM0zUBtNVEpvS5bf24xn03MB8/kfO0y02fQsFYqSNgl5rn4FWt2+XtJRuw4zhMMh0BsBG X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 4423 On 12/28/2024 11:17 AM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 12/28/24 11:50 AM, WM wrote: >> On 28.12.2024 15:12, Jim Burns wrote: >>> On 12/27/2024 5:24 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>> On 12/27/2024 01:00 PM, Jim Burns wrote: >>> >>>>> [...] >>>> >>>> The, "almost all", or, "almost everywhere", >>>> does _not_ equate to "all" or "everywhere", >>> >>> Correct. >>> ⎛ In mathematics, the term "almost all" means >>> ⎜ "all but a negligible quantity". >>> ⎜ More precisely, if X is a set, >>> ⎜ "almost all elements of X" means >>> ⎜ "all elements of X but those in >>> ⎜ a negligible subset of X". >>> ⎜ The meaning of "negligible" depends on >>> ⎜ the mathematical context; for instance, >> >> A good example is the set of FISONs. Every FISON contains only a >> negligible quantity of natural numbers. A generous estimation is: >> Every FISON contains less than 1 % of all natural numbers. There is no >> FISON that contains more than 1 %. Therefore the union of all FISONs >> contains less than 1 % of all natural numbers. Outside of the union of >> FISONs are almost all natural numbers. >> >> Regards, WM >> >> Regards, WM >> > > Just shows that you don't understand *AT ALL* about infinity. > > Every Natural Number is less that almost all other natural numbers, so > its %-tile of progress is effectively 0, but together they make up the > whole infinite set. > > The fact that you mind can't comprehend that just proves your stupidity. Consider a random uniform distribution of natural integers, same probability of each integer. Now, you might aver "that can't exist, because it would be non-standard or not-a-real-function". Then it's like "no, it's distribution is non-standard, not-a-real-function, with real-analytical-character". So, beyond the idea of small numbers that grow as "the law of large numbers", is that there are others, and furthermore, what in probability theory is a remarkable counterexample to the uniqueness of probability distributions, has that the plain old "natural/unit equivalency function" is among distributions of the naturals at uniform random. Trust me, you'll run out of fingers trying to count that.