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Path: ...!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2024 23:49:50 +0000 Subject: Re: In relativity "s" is for "spin" Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <218bad07e23f4a46a00f34853e2bcf1d@www.novabbs.com> <v5ohjh$3rj15$1@dont-email.me> <f0d1b17bf2a89bba6f0f8348aff99bde@www.novabbs.com> <v5r9b7$f8df$1@dont-email.me> <96bd84ece14deb22140e6550e8fb0b66@www.novabbs.com> <66830d36$0$11690$426a74cc@news.free.fr> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 16:49:52 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66830d36$0$11690$426a74cc@news.free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <Ua-dna9s78ID3R77nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 37 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-KiXVlWh0qKUDfQ9IZcN5LJj3iMfsuUKIXuldtuQg/XNntOoCq8Doih2iv6TceC3y8XbLNHtkGN9qj2/!lyrv2aQv9ixLbnaAD1hI3WMCuOqMcYJtaLg9NQ6vDZ+VdilWmsKeiVqDVn8/91KNMceeKLxE6A== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2803 On 07/01/2024 01:10 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote: > LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: > >> Incorrect. Relativity says light is affected twice as much as anything >> else going the same speed, that is, twice Newtonian. > > Relatvity tells us that nothing else is going at the same speed, > > Jan > Relativity says that SR is local. The idea that information cannot go faster than light, basically has that the light-like is free information itself. Yet, light is local, and an extra-local configuration of experiment, can make it so that in theories where a "guide lode" is arranged in the middle of two distant bodies, and either distant body moves, the guide lode moves, because the geodesy is always current everywhere, which can be detected the image of the guide lode, before the image of the distant body. Everybody knows that in the Solar System, the "System of the World", that the gradient of the force of gravity points at the source, not the image. Its constant (constantly current) evaluation of the geodesy is reflected in the entire geodesy, not as limited by the light-like, which is just free propagation of information, of images, or films. The geodesy and its governance of GR, is always current. Relativity and Quantum Mechanics both need better understanding of superclassical models of flow and flux and continuum mechanics.