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From: Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: Alternate OS for LG V20?
Date: 13 Jun 2025 16:59:03 +0100 (BST)
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Oscar <oscar@invalid.net> wrote:
> On 11 Jun 2025 22:02:38 +0100 (BST), Theo
> <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote 
> 
> >> Which android brand or model is the most rootable, historically?
> > 
> > Pixel.  They have the best support for aftermarket OSes, meaning that
> > there's more choice for Pixel than for other brands.  It's why OSes like
> > GrapheneOS only support Pixels.
> > 
> > (but US carriers can still lock bootloaders if they want to, so if you get a
> > carrier Pixel best to check it isn't bootloader locked)
> 
> Does the news Google no longer supports a Pixel AOSP make a difference?

They still do.  What they don't do is release AOSP commits ahead of time, it
comes all together at release time.  That means custom OSes can't do work
ahead of the release date, so they'll take longer.

There's another issue about not releasing Pixel device trees surfaced
yesterday, but not sure how that will pan out - maybe they can be extracted
from the stock OS.  Looks like GrapheneOS are on the case, although hampered
by other things going on in the world right now:
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114670995130379882

Theo