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Path: ...!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-2.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2024 20:47:06 +0000 Subject: Re: SpaceTime Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <6249F967.3B4A@ix.netcom.com> <624B373A.68E5@ix.netcom.com> <624BBDF1.1594@ix.netcom.com> <624C7C50.638A@ix.netcom.com> <lbqi8uF7r8kU3@mid.individual.net> <SZCcnfMeCMTTzMT7nZ2dnZfqlJ-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <17d4f2968eb77c5d$1$422432$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <LM-cnTrdnMfS4cb7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <17d4fbd13cb93f7c$1$424441$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2024 13:46:37 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <17d4fbd13cb93f7c$1$424441$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <Vf2dnfB9YupXFcb7nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 65 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-4JgCVsg0wkw0ScvpvmJovTXMh5bm72Qsn3lWeSv59/xQcJlfFNfvwxDhN7QTaVBNyRhVtook5nIz8Nq!OAYAA8h9dK6INHxg7vcEBRXZ1Y/SQcoeWZmg9LJCTONz33q5xYQTUm8xqzvOfsoQziXNwG2lEd4= X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3859 On 06/01/2024 01:37 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > W dniu 01.06.2024 o 21:53, Ross Finlayson pisze: >> On 06/01/2024 10:48 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: >>> W dniu 31.05.2024 o 06:25, Tom Roberts pisze: >>>> On 5/30/24 12:48 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>> Spacetime is simply what exists, [...] >>>> >>>> No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a >>>> fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you >>>> write. >>>> >>>> Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships observed in the >>>> real world. >>> >>> No, NOT AT ALL! You REALLY do not understand very basic physics, at a >>> fundamental level that distorts all your 'thinking' and everything you >>> write. >>> Spacetime is a MODEL of spatial-temporal relationships >>> gedanken/fabricated by some religious maniacs, like yourself. >>> >>> >> >> Space-Time is a perfectly good idea of a > > > Measured its goodness? Or just sure it > must be perfectly good because you're > sooooooo best? > > > > continuous manifold of >> Euclidean space > > > A lie, of course, your idiot guru has rejected > Euclidean math as it didn't want to fit his > madness. > Einstein didn't, he entertained different coordinate settings and that tensors connect them, then though he at some point in his expressed opinion said silly things about simultaneity, later his expressed opinion included a clock hypothesis and a "the time", where he introduces the "spacial" for the "special" contra the "spatial" with respect to "t". If you mean Einstein that is, author of "Out of My Later Years", which is to be read as his word on the matter overall. Then, Space-Time is a great idea, and anything anybody got wrong about it is their fault and their problem, not Space-Time's. Einstein's theory he arrives at is a field theory about the differential-systems of inertial-systems with regards to coordinate settings which happens to result that SR is local, while, the geodesy is whatever it is, and that while it is an interpretation of the Lorentzian about SR and the L-principle the constancy of c, it's not just any-old Lorentzian and there is that according to Einstein SR is local, and that any-old of those following him get or got it wrong is their own fault. So, blame the mumblers, not the guru.