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On 1/25/25 5:33 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2025, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> 
>> On 25/01/2025 17:34, D wrote:
>>> The idea of a society based on liberty and capitalism is however not 
>>> a dream, but in fact a concrete and realistic way to structure 
>>> society that will benefit everyone the most, globally, based on 
>>> extrapolating from where we are today in a logical, spiritual and 
>>> reasonable manner.
>>
>> It works in the context of of a society that creates wealth through 
>> mining or manufacturing which requires large capital, and it becomes 
>> fair only if the people themselves are a necessary part of that wealth 
>> creation.
>>
>> And that is the problem. We dont need labour any more, We don't need 
>> clerical work, we dont need skilled labour and In e.g. Russia they 
>> dont need anybody at all to pump oil and gas . So why not use them up 
>> trying to get access to more oil and gas?
>>
>> And with AI, we wont need coders anymore :-)
>>
>> The world will naturally gravitate towards mafia states, where thugs 
>> control the population and take all the wealth.
> 
> I disagree. Yes, the world now is horrible, but we've never been more 
> free or had it better in the entire history of man.
> 
> Sometimes you're so depressing! I thought I was supposed to be the 
> misanthrope! ;)
> 
> That being said however, it is definitely not a smooth upward curve of 
> progress. The curve is very erratic, although I am a firm believer in a 
> long term positive trend.


   Read yer Machiavelli ... it's ALWAYS been a "mafia state",
   just sometimes more expertly disguised than others  :-)

   I'd rec his 'Discourses' because that explains in much
   more detail, with historic refs, a lot of the other stuff
   he put into 'Prince' and other missives. He didn't make
   up any of it, just *observed* and *documented*.

   As for the "thin layer of technocrats" mentioned below,
   won't need to BE any within maybe 50 years or so - the
   "AI" will manage everything. This is the monster we
   have made .......


>> Supported by a thin layer of technocrats who can make the machines 
>> dance to tunes...