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On 20/06/2022 08:45, Brian Gaff wrote:

> This is something I am quite passionate about to be honest. When they built
> Outlook Express there were some rough edges, ie no way to  change the quote
> position without bodging cocking up outgoing encoding as we have discussed
> and things like periodically losing its way to display email after being in
> another identity etc. All probably fixable. However instead of fixing their
> client they kept on inventing new ones each time a version of Windows came
> out, totally different some more accessible than others, but mostly worse.
> Then they dropped Usenet even from Outlook as well adding stupid ribbon
> menus to stuff that nobody understood or appreciated.
>   The latest email client is a messy slow boring  half baked mess. I really
> don't get itt. Email is  in many ways one of the main things computers in
> the hands of the public get used for, yet getting it to just work seems to
> be beyond them.

I think part of the problem with outlook express was that it used an old 
version of the IE rendering engine (a thing called Trident) for HTML 
display. As such it became a security nightmare to maintain because in 
inherited the many failings of the rendering engine. It also got all the 
quirks of whatever version of IE was installed.

Later versions of Outlook (the full fat version, not "express") switched 
to using a HTML engine used by Word - and that is why outlook can still 
end up rendering HTML that does not look the same as in a modern 
browser. (its support for CSS and many other modern web things is poor)

Most recent web based versions of outlook use the webkit engine, which 
is full featured.

Not sure what the various windows "mail" clients use, but then who 
cares? :-)


-- 
Cheers,

John.

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