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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!usenet-fr.net!pasdenom.info!from-devjntp Message-ID: <XJWH-MwoJr-vhVTTCiVdMEG8A4Y@jntp> JNTP-Route: nemoweb.net JNTP-DataType: Article Subject: Re: Newton: Photon falling from h meters increase its energy. References: <4af374770bb67b6951ef19c75b35fbad@www.novabbs.com> <181aad6fc637caf5$86762$1324994$c2365abb@news.newsdemon.com> <HsjMMjqEn-xIPLFDwRzemDv0k_k@jntp> <181aca265f708c34$86828$1316151$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <yWqLdvLkG_wuxcrC3FOWtJx5ij0@jntp> <181ad97029dd5665$84566$1308629$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com> <hmQxjGXB07qZxEmyK4KPeaRDwQE@jntp> <181af2075fac6dfc$86902$1316151$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> <-ASFO-QWo_RN6JVg6xv_TcCoRco@jntp> <181af50dcc7e2827$86904$1316151$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity JNTP-HashClient: LOQgyYVHqZek4aEMFpFvAafyiZA JNTP-ThreadID: 4af374770bb67b6951ef19c75b35fbad@www.novabbs.com JNTP-Uri: https://www.nemoweb.net/?DataID=XJWH-MwoJr-vhVTTCiVdMEG8A4Y@jntp User-Agent: Nemo/1.0 JNTP-OriginServer: nemoweb.net Date: Wed, 15 Jan 25 23:47:26 +0000 Organization: Nemoweb JNTP-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 Injection-Info: nemoweb.net; posting-host="afb23e31de46adf65fef72edba2164d7f33246ba"; logging-data="2025-01-15T23:47:26Z/9176165"; posting-account="190@nemoweb.net"; mail-complaints-to="julien.arlandis@gmail.com" JNTP-ProtocolVersion: 0.21.1 JNTP-Server: PhpNemoServer/0.94.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-JNTP-JsonNewsGateway: 0.96 From: Python <jp@python.invalid> Bytes: 3112 Lines: 38 Le 15/01/2025 à 20:40, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : > W dniu 15.01.2025 o 19:54, Python pisze: >> Le 15/01/2025 à 19:45, Maciej Wozniak a écrit : >>> ... I'am an engineer, >>> So I am not pretending [being] one. >> >> "One of the best logician Humanity ever had" (ah ah ah!) doesn't know >> that there it is perfectly possible to pretend being something AND being >> so as well as to pretend something AND no being so. > > > pretend > /prɪˈtɛnd/ > verb > 1. > behave so as to make it appear that something is the case when in fact > it is not. My mistake! (thank you, for once you are right, I learnt something). It happens that the French verb "prétendre" (same latin roots) has a slightly different meaning : "Demander quelque chose, le revendiquer pour soi. prétendre (se) v.pr. Dire, affirmer qu'on est tel, malgré les doutes possibles." (Larousse dictionary) "to affirm that one is such, *despite* being doubtful" which is a little weaker than the English acception, which happens to be: "to affirm that one is such, *while* it is false". Could any native English speakers here confirm this point? That in English "to pretend to be a dog" implies that you are NOT a dog, while in French "prétendre être un chien" does not exclude the the subject *may be* a dog, even if it is doubtful. Thank you Maciej, anyway.