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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.szaf.org!nntp-feed.chiark.greenend.org.uk!ewrotcd!news.eyrie.org!beagle.ediacara.org!.POSTED.beagle.ediacara.org!not-for-mail From: *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> Newsgroups: talk.origins Subject: Re: CONTRARY EVIDENCE (WASRe: Evide)nce! Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 23:37:25 +0000 Organization: University of Ediacara Lines: 98 Sender: to%beagle.ediacara.org Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org Message-ID: <XTmdnUGJo5Io-mL4nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> References: <hleoui5fr9lhkuk3at87j8nepa0cob8hb5@4ax.com> <86le6rvetn.fsf@example.com> <qqiouipguu6qv08k5uiuj5lmged9a6scic@4ax.com> <p_0HN.545269$xHn7.365886@fx14.iad> <dtqquippo9sdpp0g234gl44ru4hpraaq6c@4ax.com> <LM8IN.701577$p%Mb.613681@fx15.iad> <5vl2vilpidbokkqrd0v635aoudh42ql3u2@4ax.com> <DiuIN.572243$xHn7.66749@fx14.iad> <fa08vitrlk8u0dicb4lvi3e0044k8512rf@4ax.com> <8bpJN.709697$p%Mb.210946@fx15.iad> <u9ggvidt961thu41tjhdva8vfrnkcqg843@4ax.com> <AGEKN.535183$c3Ea.354036@fx10.iad> <0jenvil40oto62hmdksnpgj5ab3m2c0a6a@4ax.com> <QVYKN.136032$m4d.92080@fx43.iad> <utk2sf$2v41o$1@dont-email.me> <WwpLN.675226$xHn7.596912@fx14.iad> <utmqdc$3mj1b$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: beagle.ediacara.org; posting-host="beagle.ediacara.org:3.132.105.89"; logging-data="78810"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@beagle.ediacara.org" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) To: talk-origins@moderators.isc.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:O309nFECNS/s0WOhB/SdHgufosY= Return-Path: <poster@giganews.com> X-Original-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org Delivered-To: talk-origins@ediacara.org id C585F22976C; Sat, 23 Mar 2024 19:33:55 -0400 (EDT) by beagle.ediacara.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89BF4229758 for <talk-origins@ediacara.org>; Sat, 23 Mar 2024 19:33:53 -0400 (EDT) by moderators.individual.net (Exim 4.97) for talk-origins@moderators.isc.org with esmtp (envelope-from <poster@giganews.com>) id 1roAvf-00000001HGp-1GR6; Sun, 24 Mar 2024 00:37:35 +0100 by egress-mx.phmgmt.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC2BA607C7 for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sat, 23 Mar 2024 23:37:18 +0000 (UTC) by serv-1.ord.giganews.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 653454404BD for <talk-origins@moderators.isc.org>; Sat, 23 Mar 2024 18:37:25 -0500 (CDT) by serv-1.i.ord.giganews.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id 42NNbPVJ084934; Sat, 23 Mar 2024 18:37:25 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: serv-1.i.ord.giganews.com: news set sender to poster@giganews.com using -f X-Path: news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail X-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2024 23:37:25 +0000 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Original-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 7128 Mark Isaak <specimenNOSPAM@curioustaxon.omy.net> wrote: > On 3/22/24 5:39 PM, Ron Dean wrote: >> Ernest Major wrote: >>> On 21/03/2024 16:06, Ron Dean wrote: >>>> jillery wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:04:32 -0400, Ron Dean >>>>> <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> posted yet another self-parody: >>>>> >>>>>> jillery wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2024 18:37:55 -0400, Ron Dean >>>>>>> <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> posted yet another self-parody: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <snip pointless digressions> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> prove that Life appeared not from >>>>>>>>>> non- life which is exactly what a believer would predict. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I suppose, if your "believer" believes the Bible stories of God >>>>>>>>> breathing life into dust. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I heard this statement as a child. Not sure where in the Bible it's >>>>>>>> found. But you as an atheist naturally would rather die before >>>>>>>> admitting >>>>>>>> there may be a God (designer). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Since you mention it: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a >>>>>>> living >>>>>>> soul. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Genesis 3:19 for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As someone you repeatedly and baselessly and pointlessly claim to be >>>>>>> an atheist, that I quote the Bible to you raises your words to scorn. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Even though I have thought of you as an atheist, This was the only >>>>>> time >>>>>> I actually expressed this thought. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Even if your comment above was technically correct, which it isn't, >>>>> that you assert the point even once, and without apology, is >>>>> sufficient to raise your words to scorn. >>>>> >>>>> Worse, you repeatedly and baselessly and pointlessly conflate >>>>> evolutionists and atheists. >>>>> >>>>> Worse, you now evade the original point, that Bible believers claim >>>>> life comes from non-life. >>>>> >>>>> Worse, once again you post a lie trivially proved false: >>>>> ********************************** >>>>> From: Ron Dean <rondean-noreply@gmail.com> >>>>> Newsgroups: talk.origins >>>>> Subject: Re: Masterclass >>>>> Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:28:33 -0500 >>>>> Approved: moderator@beagle.ediacara.org >>>>> Message-ID: <6nOxN.99620$STLe.82442@fx34.iad> >>>>> >>>>>> As an atheist, for you to bear false witness against someone has no >>>>>> consequence for you. >>>>> ************************************* >>>>> >>>>> Is it your intent to continue to lie for God? If so, you're doing a >>>>> great job. >>>>> >>>> I never deliberately lie. I been mistaken, but they were honest >>>> mistakes. >>>> >>>> Explain to me what consequences do you think atheist are concerned >>>> with. IOW what was Hitler's, Stalin's or Pol Pot's concern about >>>> consequences of their actions. Remember these men were engaged in >>>> genocide, after they gained the power, each had millions of people >>>> murdered. Do you think either of the 3 gave thought as to the >>>> consequences of such actions for themselves? >>> >>> What answers did you get last time you engaged in this bit of ad-hominem? >>> >>> One could turn round your question, and ask what consequences you >>> think Christians like Hitler, Putin and Trump are concerned with. >> >> Pure cynicism! > > And what about people for whom theism is their greatest motivator, such > as Osama bin Laden? Cynicism seems a rational response. > Mark, you correctly named Osama bin Laden above. In Ron Dean’s subsequent reply your own spelling changes to Obama bin Laden. Ron Dean then matches that spelling in his reply. I wonder why your correct naming of a terrorist got morphed into a hybrid of a former POTUS and a terrorist? I Chez Watted that based on Ron Dean’s post not realizing what had happened. I apologize.