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Subject: Re: Another Wayland Horror Story
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SiO2_Man <StockholmDetektiv@meatball.com>
news:MPG.4356e87c824610fe989683@usnews.blocknews.net Mon, 13 Oct 2025
15:44:47 GMT in comp.os.linux.advocacy, wrote: 

> In article <68ed0852$2$22$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com>, 
> brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com says...
>> 
>> On Oct 4, 2025 at 2:14:37 AM MST, "Stéphane CARPENTIER" wrote
>> <68e0e57d$0$28045$426a74cc@news.free.fr>:
>> 
>> > Le 03-10-2025, Lester Thorpe <lt@gnu.rocks> a écrit :
>> >> On Thu, 02 Oct 2025 20:20:35 +0000, vallor wrote:
>> >> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> (as we all know, the proper command is
>> >>> 
>> >>> $ magick import -window root -screen plasma.png
>> >>> 
>> >> 
>> >> We all?
>> >> 
>> >> You all is fucked stupid.
>> >> 
>> >> The command "magick import plasma.png" puts a special
>> >> cursor on the screen that allows the user to select
>> >> a specific region or window.
>> >> 
>> >> But the point remains: wayland literally destroys huge
>> >> numbers of X11 programs.
>> > 
>> > Wrong. Once again. Wayland destroys nothing. The programs still work
>> > on X11. And the number of programs which doesn't run on wayland is
>> > far from being huge. There are tens of thousands of programs that run
>> > on Linux. Only a few dozen of them can't run on neither natively on
>> > wayland nor with the help of xwayland. The only programs that don't
>> > run on wayland are the one that want to take information from other
>> > programs the wrong way. In which you can include screenshots.
> 
> *WARNING!  DANGER!  WILL ROBINSON.  SNIT CIRCUS ALERT!*
> *-------------------------------------------------------*
> 
> Super troll snit has invaded comp.os.linux.advocacy in 
> order to set up another one of his troll farms.
> He's ignored in alt.computer.workshop so he is seeking 
> more fertile trolling grounds. 
> Below find a brief analysis of snit's techniques for 
> opening up the big top in a new group.
> 
> 
>> I am just dipping my toes back into desktop Linux after a few years of
>> very little usage. Happy to see there has been progress.
> 
> This is snit playing the good cop, new user. It is crafted 
> to suck people into wanting to help out a new or outdated 
> Linux user.
> 
>> From what I have read,
>> Wayland is more secure, easier to maintain, allows for smoother
>> graphics, has better support for modern monitors, gives more choice (in
>> things like options per window instead of the whole system), etc.
> 
> Here is where snit pretends he is just finding out 
> information regarding Wayland. This statement is a clever 
> method to pick a side of the debate in order to get people 
> on the other side of the debate, in this case those who 
> don't like Wayland, to chime in and start to troll fest 
> going.
> 
>> 
>> Not sure what specific things would jump out at me using one over the
>> other though.
> 
> Driving home the above with a vague statement. It's 
> crafted so that both sides begin arguing while snit sits 
> back and stokes the flames.
> 
>  
>> >> This makes no difference to distro lackeys, however,
>> > 
>> > For a fact, you are the one unable to take screenshots with wayland.
>> > Not me.
>> > 
>> >> who are as clueless and stupid as Trump voters.
>> > 
>> > For a fact, you are the one living in the country which elected
>> > Trump. Not me.
>> 
>> LOL! Ouch! But true... the US has gone utterly insane. There are some
>> who say the election was rigged -- but even if true (and I am NOT
>> convinced) -- a huge percentage of our population is STILL supporting a
>> fascist oligarch pushing echoes of Nazi Germany. It is horrid and
>> getting worse. 
> 
> The last paragraph is where snit comments on an unrelated, 
> volatile topic as a last ditch attempt to suck people into 
> the troll who may not care about Wayland but are 
> politically minded.
> 
> Don't fall for snit's games.
> Take a look at alt.computer.workshop to see how snit's 
> trolling has destroyed what was once a decent group.
> 
> *Read all about the snit here*
> https://tinyurl.com/WhatIsSnit
> https://tinyurl.com/Snitliesmethods
> https://tinyurl.com/Snit-Reviews

:) Nice post. I was curious to see how long Snit could play some people 
before someone who knows better gave them a heads up...

Now i'm curious to see how many of them will choose to learn the hard way? 
Time will tell.



-- 
Liar, lawyer; mirror show me, what's the difference?
Kangaroo done hung the guilty with the innocent
Liar, lawyer; mirror for ya', what's the difference?
Kangaroo be stoned. He's guilty as the government