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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.earthlink.com!news.earthlink.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2024 15:07:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2024 10:07:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Whether something is RISC or not (Re: PDP-8 theology, not Concertina II Progress) Newsgroups: comp.arch References: <uigus7$1pteb$1@dont-email.me> <umvnh2$27m0$1@gal.iecc.com> <868r55parv.fsf@linuxsc.com> <jwv4jfk7vet.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org> <unni2h$1qgc$2@gal.iecc.com> <2024Jan11.080258@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <hFeoN.153631$c3Ea.77560@fx10.iad> <ae65920bbb2ea09c74d0ea7584604b0f@www.novabbs.com> <sEWoN.224880$xHn7.139333@fx14.iad> <uvkh3q$ihej$2@dont-email.me> <uvl5hj$q0so$1@dont-email.me> <550600971b1a36b4b630c496cb21b96b@www.novabbs.org> <vdhkcs$2s651$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US From: David Schultz <david.schultz@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <vdhkcs$2s651$1@dont-email.me> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <XvKcne3xI5Uz_GD7nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@earthlink.com> Lines: 21 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 108.194.109.87 X-Trace: sv3-3x2IKKpdNu7Hl7fJDXzoX97vFNHL+DozpV3mkbO62DczbF5QdmwGDGpK38RgItlenZ4IOzmS5fxJ5UF!IjjvGYcHYcdOcy/oPy5Klr4eDASTlooPil33sFe2sK3SB4dPEC9fgwbm4dIlghwy+vQHkmwsndAt!XI78fwYmiMXlclOsTxtmTvLawEsTicv0sWMKbt3RLw== X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2406 On 10/1/24 3:00 PM, Thomas Koenig wrote: > MitchAlsup1 <mitchalsup@aol.com> schrieb: > >> A 32-bit bus would have priced the 68K at 30%-50% higher simply >> due to the number of pins on available packages. This would have >> eliminated any chance at competing for the broad markets at that >> time. > > Would have an external 16-bit bus and an internal 32-bit bus have > been advantageous, or would this have blown a likely transistor > budget for little gain? Saving an extra pass through the 16 bit ALU for a 32 bit operation would be faster. Assuming that you didn't have to wait for another bus cycle to get the other half of an operand. Making it faster for register to register operations and not much else. -- http://davesrocketworks.com David Schultz