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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-3.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 06:23:28 +0000 Subject: Re: GIMP 3.0.0-RC1 Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc References: <20250212081704.00003ce1@gmail.com> <slrnvqq09r.38buj.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <DKOcnSWcJP6OgTD6nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <20250212145430.00001040@gmail.com> <vojqqp$2klsq$2@dont-email.me> <6fqdnVeJects6jD6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <20250213080300.00001d26@gmail.com> <volcpu$30n7k$3@dont-email.me> <voq1ju$v3u$6@dont-email.me> <Z1ednQx_yfh60yz6nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> <m1d4ssFs8jmU2@mid.individual.net> <j0o2rjp7j04i6osfcb22537md72nf02l9a@4ax.com> <m1d96cFsnkkU4@mid.individual.net> From: c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2025 01:23:23 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.13.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <m1d96cFsnkkU4@mid.individual.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <YOGcndFY1K39GSz6nZ2dnZfqnPQAAAAA@giganews.com> Lines: 32 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-Ose1RpaPwzd/EKI17UOszqxY4VvxO7Qw3sDrIC1SUZYJ0FmKSsdQKjgFYQwJAP1D6t7T7LCXdh8KxsX!6t1eWwdi4TIhW+v4/VaRIFXMWZM4cQWjqhu4Qe5JSw0AGdTPMVbB99rW1RgOkAZBsynACRYQ5qWr X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2943 On 2/15/25 11:51 PM, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 22:51:03 -0500, Joel wrote: > >> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 21:35:16 -0500, c186282 wrote: >>> >>>> The Borland products were GREAT STUFF from TP v1.0, >>>> a whole different experience, a whole new level of productivity. >>> >>> I preferred OWL to Mighty Fucking Complicated but so it goes. >> >> >> I had Borland's Win95-era package, certainly was great in its time, >> but ultimately it seems reasonable for M$ to provide development >> software themselves, they're the ones creating the platform. > > I've still got the box for Windows 3. Borland's C++ preceeded Microsoft's > C/C++ 7.0. MFC was a very thin wrapper on the C API. > > To Microsoft's defense C++ wasn't ready for prime time in the early '90s > and Microsoft had to invent their own conventions. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_API > > That does a good job of airing the dirty laundry. I don't know about > Petzold's later in the series but his 'Programming Windows' books used C > and direct API calls. In the 6th edition he used C# and stated Microsoft > had finally come up with a decent language. Pascal Forever ! All praise Lord Wirth, the Enlightened One ! :-)