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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 16:16:13 +0000 Subject: Re: In relativity "s" is for "spin" Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <218bad07e23f4a46a00f34853e2bcf1d@www.novabbs.com> <v5ohjh$3rj15$1@dont-email.me> <f0d1b17bf2a89bba6f0f8348aff99bde@www.novabbs.com> <v5r9b7$f8df$1@dont-email.me> <96bd84ece14deb22140e6550e8fb0b66@www.novabbs.com> <66830d36$0$11690$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <Ua-dna9s78ID3R77nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@giganews.com> <6683add0$0$8240$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <sKednaFub5b2_Bn7nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> <6685a090$0$3885$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <vc-cnZQa3PvlNRj7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 09:16:19 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <vc-cnZQa3PvlNRj7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <ZS2dnfqrE7tTVxv7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 57 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-WEV2meS3WIEgDP0x32NC57T8zWxz2e/Ad03em2U2cfvxVkCNmyxfyJx93lZp+XgVOSrmyjXf9PFy1KR!unZHRRcZqi3I5inquNcxeFzPUq1dGvukg24hetjmCqBPI4ZYG+DPs3gGCDMTGL9Q37gIEUGqASNz!5g== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3495 On 07/03/2024 12:37 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 07/03/2024 12:03 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote: >> Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 07/02/2024 12:35 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>>> Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 07/01/2024 01:10 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote: >>>>>> LaurenceClarkCrossen <clzb93ynxj@att.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Incorrect. Relativity says light is affected twice as much as >>>>>>> anything >>>>>>> else going the same speed, that is, twice Newtonian. >>>>>> >>>>>> Relatvity tells us that nothing else is going at the same speed, >>>>>> >>>>>> Jan >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Relativity says that SR is local. >>>>> >>>>> The idea that information cannot go faster than light, basically >>>>> has that the light-like is free information itself. >>>>> >>>>> Yet, light is local, >>>> >>>> Where did you pick up that piece of misinformation? >>>> >>>> Jan >>>> >>> >>> Einstein says so, and, "Relativity of Simultaneity is non-local", >>> and, "SR is local" is something at least I've arrived at since >>> quite a few years ago. >>> >>> Einstein defines two different milieus for "Space-Time", >>> the "spatial" for GR and "spacial" for SR. >> >> relativity != light, >> >> Jan >> > > It's pretty simple that Einstein combined his theories > of GR and SR into a theory "Relativity", with GR governing > SR not the other way around, and: that the L-principle, > for light's speed constancy, is a precept of SR, and, Relativity. > > The "no absolute motion" bit, or "Relativity", doesn't address > itself neither the Galilean linear or gyroscopic rotational > space-contraction, the one going out the other in, nor does > it address "absolute space", nor "absolute time". > > In Relativity, "L" is for "Light", and "SR" is "local".