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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-1.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2024 02:12:48 +0000 Subject: Re: the notion of counter-intuitiveness in relativistic physics (running constants) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity References: <GBEGTHyJnMpjHuJ0IoZO0OLSc1M@jntp> <0b2ff7832787b9d3165d93803b09df8f@www.novabbs.com> <74ipUL6JcQu72w-mbGQ7BbVp7kU@jntp> <cda33e42de10aeee9283e500b47a63f9@www.novabbs.com> <AE2L2lzGJn13Z_4dg3bpJC59QsA@jntp> <66b3d79f$0$3656$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <ohKdnWfeloC6hyn7nZ2dnZfqnPcAAAAA@giganews.com> <BvmcnQ835vriXir7nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <66b7d426$0$8238$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <17ea79aa0bc9fa16$255285$505064$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> From: Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2024 19:13:21 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <17ea79aa0bc9fa16$255285$505064$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <_-CcnZ9dvLu9gyX7nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Lines: 55 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-qo3HK3IZSMjmipEERoDrWaDAApbS2384i1rPkcVBKu7bw5igJzd1BBcFwYlsJegvFZs4AhIjOMEsNxe!Z29ba/N+hXD8bYS5HAF3TO7aVt0FxEJBoNzACbcLo6Of/owKwpkId5bZqCXG0X1dB6hFp7v+Dg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3873 On 08/10/2024 01:59 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote: > W dniu 10.08.2024 o 22:57, J. J. Lodder pisze: >> Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On 08/07/2024 06:07 PM, Ross Finlayson wrote: >>>> According to Maxwell the field's speed is actually a bit >>>> greater than 3.06 x 10^8 m/s, .... >>>> >>>> Not so much tachyonic though as according to "gravity's speed" >>>> coming down or braking from the standing electrical field wave. >>>> >>>> "... didn't have relativity in order ...", that's rich. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Article the other day, "astonishing new laser-and-thorium setup >>> reduces the cloud of electron-physics and enables an entirely >>> new configuration of experiment, that amazingly both refines >>> and reduces 'what we all thought' as physical constants". >> >> [snip more blahblahblah] >> You really should give direct references. >> <https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.133.013201> >> or the press release with it >> <https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/nuclear-spectroscopy-breakthrough-could-rewrite-fundamental-constants-of-nature> >> >> >> Summary: >> They succeeded in exiting a isomeric resonance in the ^{229}Th nucleus >> at about 8 eV, with a lifetime of about 600 second. (so in the far UV, >> using a fluorite crystal that is still transparent at this wavelength) >> >> This may be used to create a still more accurate frequency standard, >> hence a clock. (eventually) >> >> Nothing very 'amazing' or 'astonishing' about it, >> just another decade of precision gained, >> after a decade of hard experimental work, > > > And in the meantime in the real world - forbidden > by your bunch of idiots improper clocks keep > measuring improper t'=t in improper seconds. > That's among reasons why the, "re-ordering Relativity", bit, is so rich, so, verdant, ripe, pungent, a rich, rich humus, which needs a proper apologetics and somebody to explain how all science still fits all of data when, for example, 2MASS and JWST and even Pioneer have definitely seven-sigma'd Newton and Einstein put together, while g2 has about log-linear'ed itself sideways. Yeah, yeah, I know, "fit the data", ....