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X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:5cc5:b0:473:23d5:9109 with SMTP id lk5-20020a0562145cc500b0047323d59109mr5119074qvb.77.1657331839524; Fri, 08 Jul 2022 18:57:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a0d:fec7:0:b0:317:5b1b:3e7a with SMTP id o190-20020a0dfec7000000b003175b1b3e7amr7200968ywf.497.1657331839229; Fri, 08 Jul 2022 18:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Path: ...!news-out.google.com!nntp.google.com!postnews.google.com!google-groups.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: rec.gambling.poker Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2022 18:57:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <fb81961e-7042-4d9c-8e10-bb4d1a9d3447n@googlegroups.com> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com; posting-host=23.81.114.227; posting-account=GLrzsQoAAABV9VjkDOhhJnHW1VBR8ISD NNTP-Posting-Host: 23.81.114.227 References: <62a0f83e-8cf5-4b56-b104-0fb0e123f838n@googlegroups.com> <8c3da8c4-4aca-4a02-a2ad-257b25f02df6n@googlegroups.com> <c93eca0a-4fef-4fe4-aad1-d0be6c7c3623n@googlegroups.com> <fb81961e-7042-4d9c-8e10-bb4d1a9d3447n@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <55b2de70-7897-49cb-b1e5-063085419f83n@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Japanese ex-PM Abe killed with homemade gun From: BillB <williambradleyllb@gmail.com> Injection-Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2022 01:57:19 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bytes: 2937 Lines: 22 On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 6:01:25 PM UTC-7, Popinjay wrote: > On Friday, July 8, 2022 at 5:49:29 PM UTC-7, Alim Nassor wrote:=20 >=20 > > Even if guns were readily available in Japan, I'd wager shootings would= still be much rarer there than here. It's a cultural thing. Not a Chicago = slum area or New Orleans shithole neighborhood in the country. > Exactly right. Japanese culture is totally different. If there was any po= int to my post, it's that guns can be made anywhere. Even in jail they can = make guns. You can't uninvent guns. I guess that's over BillB's head. No, it doesn't go over my head at all. But what can be done and what will b= e done are two very different things. That seems to go over your head. And = you're right, it is the culture. The fanaticism over guns in the US is unus= ual and weird. Citizens of wealthy Western countries with serious gun regul= ations also know how to make guns, but they don't. The US has something lik= e 400 million guns now. You'll never be able to control them directly with = new laws. That's a given. But laws do change culture. They are an expressio= n of a society's values, and when people grow up with them those values ten= d to become ingrained in the culture. So the US started off on the wrong fo= ot with respect to guns, and it hasn't corrected course. And Americans have= been living the consequences of that bad decision-making for as long as I= 've been alive, at least. To make matters worse, it's a feedback loop situa= tion.