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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: JM <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Final final 1kHz oscillator Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 08:48:36 +0000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 1377 Message-ID: <a0ndkjh0sjfetmh785t5fr3h361f3fvf26@4ax.com> References: <vhjji9$2ro5$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vhkq30$46ha$2@dont-email.me> <vhp713$12bnt$2@dont-email.me> <vhqbme$2ddg$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vhrma8$1io30$2@dont-email.me> <vhro79$1kin$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vhs1ea$1kbt4$1@dont-email.me> <vht5s3$1jtr$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vhue9h$243sl$1@dont-email.me> <vhug10$29pi$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vi0lr6$2fhp2$3@dont-email.me> <vi3j1k$3aiv6$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 09:48:43 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="605f87b02ffb2d1466171d0286175df4"; logging-data="4139584"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18BYQOXk2IxrvSOdtZdEBm0" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:DqhUyNM7DsV8BeM79Pn5+AqrIds= Bytes: 40816 On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 15:32:38 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >On 25/11/2024 1:02 pm, Bill Sloman wrote: >> On 24/11/2024 5:10 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: >>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message >>> news:vhue9h$243sl$1@dont-email.me... >>>> On 24/11/2024 5:11 am, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message >>>>> news:vhs1ea$1kbt4$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>> On 23/11/2024 4:12 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:vhrma8$1io30$2@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>> On 23/11/2024 3:32 am, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:vhp713$12bnt$2@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>> On 21/11/2024 1:00 am, Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 20/11/2024 2:03 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>> news:vhjj2v$24eu4$3@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/11/2024 1:29 pm, Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/11/2024 12:59 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:vhibce$1t7v2$1@dont-email.me... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18/11/2024 2:58 pm, Edward Rawde wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:n7iijjdeqecl0kmub0bq5in0dbm60m7qam@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 11:14:28 -0500, "Edward Rawde" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "JM" <sunaecoNoChoppedPork@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> news:t5fajjdteskfftvkf84iqsp2vc4b9ta5kj@4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 8 Nov 2024 15:43:41 -0500, "Edward Rawde" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote: > ><snip> > >The current version has been running overnight and has got to three >seconds, and the DFT from 2.8 to three seconds shows third harmonic >about 90db below the fundamental. The noise floor is about 100dB down >and the other harmonics are barely visible above it. > >Here's the .asc file. There are extra components put in to make it >simulate faster - L1 and L14 are the obvious examples, but L10, L11 and >L12 got put in for the same reason. I suspect that if I had put in >equivalent series resistance and inductance for C22 as well as for C6 >and C15 I might not have needed some of them. > >There is some other tidying up I could do, and that should get get the >simulation speed up. I got a new circuit from John May last night, and >it not only spits out a very clean sine wave but also simulated very >fast. I forgot to put it on solid state disk before I ran it, and it >took as long to get one of the waveforms off the spinning hard disk as >it had done to run the simulation. > >Ny tidying up is going to wait until I've got ten seconds worth of >simulation out of the current circuit, and can look at the details of >what's going on deep in the circuit > >Version 4 >SHEET 1 3608 920 >WIRE -1408 -2176 -1904 -2176 >WIRE -1104 -2176 -1408 -2176 >WIRE -736 -2176 -1104 -2176 >WIRE -320 -2176 -736 -2176 >WIRE 208 -2176 -320 -2176 >WIRE 336 -2176 208 -2176 >WIRE 576 -2176 336 -2176 >WIRE -736 -2160 -736 -2176 >WIRE 208 -2160 208 -2176 >WIRE -320 -2144 -320 -2176 >WIRE 1808 -2064 -1760 -2064 >WIRE -736 -2032 -736 -2096 >WIRE -656 -2032 -736 -2032 >WIRE -320 -2032 -320 -2080 >WIRE -176 -2032 -320 -2032 >WIRE 208 -2016 208 -2096 >WIRE 336 -2016 208 -2016 >WIRE -320 -2000 -320 -2032 >WIRE -736 -1984 -736 -2032 >WIRE 336 -1968 336 -2016 >WIRE 576 -1968 576 -2176 >WIRE 336 -1888 336 -1904 >WIRE -608 -1872 -912 -1872 >WIRE -32 -1872 -528 -1872 >WIRE -128 -1808 -272 -1808 >WIRE -32 -1808 -32 -1872 >WIRE -32 -1808 -64 -1808 >WIRE -1344 -1792 -1568 -1792 >WIRE 576 -1776 576 -1904 >WIRE 768 -1776 576 -1776 >WIRE 1024 -1776 864 -1776 >WIRE 1200 -1776 1104 -1776 >WIRE 1296 -1776 1200 -1776 >WIRE 1472 -1776 1376 -1776 >WIRE 1536 -1776 1472 -1776 >WIRE 1760 -1776 1616 -1776 >WIRE -1904 -1760 -1904 -2176 >WIRE -1408 -1760 -1408 -2176 >WIRE -1344 -1744 -1344 -1792 >WIRE -1344 -1744 -1376 -1744 >WIRE -1760 -1728 -1760 -2064 >WIRE -1568 -1728 -1568 -1792 >WIRE -1440 -1728 -1568 -1728 >WIRE 1200 -1728 1200 -1776 >WIRE 1760 -1728 1760 -1776 >WIRE -1328 -1712 -1376 -1712 >WIRE -1184 -1712 -1328 -1712 >WIRE -1040 -1712 -1184 -1712 >WIRE -864 -1712 -960 -1712 >WIRE -576 -1712 -784 -1712 >WIRE -272 -1712 -272 -1808 >WIRE -256 -1712 -272 -1712 >WIRE -128 -1712 -192 -1712 >WIRE -32 -1712 -32 -1808 >WIRE -32 -1712 -64 -1712 >WIRE -1568 -1648 -1568 -1728 >WIRE -1184 -1648 -1184 -1712 >WIRE -1760 -1632 -1760 -1648 >WIRE -272 -1616 -272 -1712 >WIRE -144 -1616 -272 -1616 >WIRE -32 -1616 -32 -1712 >WIRE -32 -1616 -64 -1616 >WIRE 1200 -1616 1200 -1664 >WIRE -1328 -1584 -1328 -1712 >WIRE -912 -1568 -912 -1872 >WIRE -848 -1568 -912 -1568 >WIRE -576 -1568 -576 -1712 >WIRE -576 -1568 -784 -1568 >WIRE -176 -1552 -176 -2032 >WIRE -1760 -1536 -1760 -1568 >WIRE -576 -1536 -576 -1568 >WIRE -544 -1536 -576 -1536 >WIRE -432 -1536 -480 -1536 >WIRE -272 -1536 -272 -1616 >WIRE -272 -1536 -352 -1536 >WIRE -208 -1536 -272 -1536 >WIRE 1472 -1536 1472 -1776 >WIRE 1520 -1536 1472 -1536 >WIRE 1760 -1536 1760 -1664 >WIRE 1760 -1536 1584 -1536 >WIRE -1568 -1520 -1568 -1568 >WIRE -1488 -1520 -1568 -1520 >WIRE -1376 -1520 -1488 -1520 >WIRE -32 -1520 -32 -1616 >WIRE -32 -1520 -144 -1520 >WIRE 16 -1520 -32 -1520 >WIRE 64 -1520 16 -1520 >WIRE 112 -1520 64 -1520 >WIRE 432 -1520 192 -1520 >WIRE -208 -1504 -288 -1504 >WIRE -1904 -1488 -1904 -1680 >WIRE -1840 -1488 -1904 -1488 >WIRE -1824 -1488 -1840 -1488 >WIRE -656 -1472 -656 -2032 >WIRE -1840 -1456 -1840 -1488 >WIRE -1328 -1456 -1328 -1488 >WIRE -1184 -1456 -1184 -1568 >WIRE -1184 -1456 -1328 -1456 >WIRE -912 -1456 -912 -1568 >WIRE -912 -1456 -1184 -1456 >WIRE -688 -1456 -912 -1456 >WIRE -288 -1456 -288 -1504 >WIRE 256 -1456 144 -1456 >WIRE 368 -1456 336 -1456 >WIRE 496 -1456 368 -1456 >WIRE 1104 -1456 960 -1456 >WIRE 1664 -1456 1104 -1456 >WIRE -576 -1440 -576 -1536 >WIRE -576 -1440 -624 -1440 >WIRE 960 -1440 960 -1456 >WIRE -688 -1424 -704 -1424 >WIRE 1664 -1424 1664 -1456 >WIRE 768 -1408 768 -1776 >WIRE 1472 -1408 1472 -1536 >WIRE 1632 -1408 1472 -1408 >WIRE 496 -1392 496 -1456 >WIRE 1760 -1392 1760 -1536 >WIRE 1760 -1392 1696 -1392 >WIRE 1808 -1392 1808 -2064 >WIRE 1808 -1392 1760 -1392 ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========