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From: will.dockery@gmail.com (W.Dockery)
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Subject: Re: Poetry of Robert E. Howard
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 04:41:08 +0000
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Zod wrote:

> Will Dockery wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, March 1, 2015 at 8:43:26 AM UTC-5, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>>> On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 10:27:21 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
>>> > On Saturday, February 28, 2015 at 9:29:48 PM UTC-5, George Dance
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > > > > > > Today on The Penny Blog:
>>> > > > > > > If Winter Remain, by Clark Ashton Smith
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > > Hateful, and most abhorred,
>>> > > > > > > about us the season
>>> > > > > > > of sleet, of snow and of frost
>>> > > > > > > reaches, and seems unending
>>> > > > > > > as plains whereon
>>> > > > > > > lashed prisoners go
>>> > > > > > > [...]
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> http://gdancesbetty.blogspot.ca/2015/02/if-winter-remain-clark-ashton-smith.html
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Aha, I remember Clark Ashton Smith from my later childhood
>>> days, when I was steeped in Edgar Allan Poe, H.P. Lovecraft, Robert E.
>>> Howard, Baudelaire and Rimbaud, the Cthulu Mythos, and all the lurching
>>> shambling horrors that went with it. Great stuff, and very influential
>>> on the Shadowville scene.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Here's a groovy quote from C.A.S.
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > "The nostalgia of things unknown, of lands forgotten or
>>> unfound, is upon me at times. Often I long for the gleam of yellow suns
>>> upon terraces of translucent azure marble, mocking the windless waters
>>> of lakes unfathomably calm; for lost, legendary palaces of serpentine,
>>> silver and ebony, whose columns are green stalactites; for the pillars
>>> of fallen temples, standing in the vast purpureal sunset of a land of
>>> lost and marvellous romance.. I sigh for the dark-green depths of cedar
>>> forests, through whose fantastically woven boughs, one sees at intervals
>>> an unknown tropic ocean, like gleams of blue diamond; for isles of palm
>>> and coral, that fret an amber morning, somewhere beyond Cathay or
>>> Taprobane; for the strange and hidden cities of the desert, with burning
>>> brazen domes and slender pinnacles of gold and copper, that pierce a
>>> heaven of heated lazuli."
>>> > > > > > -Clark Ashton Smith, "Nostalgia of the Unknown"
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > I'm glad you know of that tradition (which I didn't until I
>>> started working on PPP). I wonder if Michael does, since it's the one he
>>> actually works within. It's a shame, really; if it weren't for the
>>> Mickey Mouse Act of 1998, all their works would be public domain by now,
>>> and everyone would probably be well aware of them; but nowadays one
>>> won't find any of their poetry without digging for it.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > When I was publishing "Penny Dreadful," I corresponded with a lot
>>> fellow
>>> > > > writers with similar tastes (most of them living in England); and
>>> was a member > of The Doppelganger Society which published a broadsheet
>>> that focused on horror > and fantasy writings from that period.
>>> > >
>>> > > Sorry if I was unclear. I'm sure you know a lot more about the
>>> Cthulu writers' horror fiction than I do. And I'm sure that nearly every
>>> reader has at least heard of it. I was referring to their poetry: I'd
>>> had no idea that Smith, Lovecraft, Howard, and Frank Belknap Long all
>>> wrote Romantic/Gothic poetry, too; that's the part I fear may be being
>>> forgotten. I've never read a word in any poetry texts or anthologies
>>> that I've read (mind you, that's true of a number of top-notch poets,
>>> like Vachel Lindsay and Alfred Noyes, as well). As far as academia is
>>> concerned, their poetry never existed. And, due to the absurd U.S.
>>> copyright term, the Internet can't be counted on to fill the vacuum,
>>> either.
>>> > >
>>> > > > Robert W. Chambers, M.P. Shiel, M.R. James and William Hope
>>> Hodgson are other
>>> > > > writers from this tradition who've still got large followings.
>>> Algernon
>>> > > > Blackwood is my personal favorite.
>>> > >
>>> > > I'll search to see if (and what) poetry these writers have
>>> published. If I find some for anyone, I'll be sure to add him to the
>>> wiki, too.
>>> >
>>> > Robert E. Howard is fairly well represented online with his poetry,
>>> probably because he's so famous as the creator of Conan The Barbarian...
>>> >
>>> > http://users.rcn.com/shogan/howard/excerpts/epoetry.htm
>>> That was a new site to me, which I've added to Howard's article as an
>>> EL. Notice, though, that the guy doesn't print complete poems but only
>>> excerpts (probably because of copyright restrictions).
>>>
>>> I'd call Howard one of the hardest to use; the problem being that,
>>> although he died in 1936 (meaning anything he published in his lifetime
>>> is in the public domain in Canada and Europe), none of his poetry
>>> appears to have been published in book form before 1957.
>>>
>>> I've been able to find only two sites which feature complete poems by
>>> REH: a blog with 6 poems in an introductory essay on a weblog
>>>
>>> http://themysticfool.blogspot.ca/2007/12/poems-by-robert-e-howard.html
>>>
>>> and 19 poems on the AllPoetry site
>>>
>>> http://allpoetry.com/Robert-E.--Howard
>
>> Our discussion that included Robert E Howard, from a few years ago.
>
> Cool, seems some posts are missing from the thread...

I wonder if JLA Forums has retained those posts.