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From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz)
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Subject: Re: What is a photon
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2025 10:52:56 +0000
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On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 3:13:59 +0000, Bertietaylor wrote:

> On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 1:07:24 +0000, rhertz wrote:
>
>> This is MY DEFINITION of what a photon is, which merges Maxwell and
>> Planck:
>>
>> A photon (Planck) is a ray of light (Maxwell), which is:
>>
>>  - Self-propelled point-like particle that is the least component of
>> light itself.
>
> Rubbish. Point particles can not bend nicely in denser medium. They
> cannot have interference patterns. They cannot be polarized. They cannot
> get a uniform phase front as in laser or maser. They cannot diffract.
> There is no way they can create standing wave patterns.




Bertietaylor, YOUR LACK OF CRITICAL THINKING AND MULTIDIMENSIONAL
ANALYSIS IS APPALLING. YOU NEED TO RESET YOURSELF AND FIND OUT WHAT IS
WRONG WITH YOUR MIND.

IT'S NOT THE POINT-LIKE PARTICLE WHICH BENDS OR CREATE INTERFERENCE
PATTERNS, MAN.

IT'S DUE TO THEIR ASSOCIATED ELECTRICAL AND MAGNETIC FIELDS, WHICH ARE
SELF-GENERATED AND SELF-SUSTAINED FOREVER, ACROSS HUGE DISTANCES OF
BILLIONS OF LY.

WHEN TRESPASSING MEDIUMS ON ITS LONG JOURNEY ON SPACE, BOTH FIELDS ADAPT
TO CORRECT THE SPEED OF SUCH PARTICLE (AKA PHOTON).

ALWAYS, SINCE 1865 AND 1901, BOTH THEORIES WERE THE EXACT REPRESENTATION
OF A TOP-DOWN APPROACH (MAXWELL) AND A BOTTOM-UP APPROACH (PLANCK).

THAT YOU CAN'T SEE IT OR UNDERSTAND IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE NOT A DEEP
THINKER, AND I PITY YOU FOR IT.

GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND BOTH MODELS SIMULTANEOUSLY, AND
YOU'LL FIND THE TRUTH THAT HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR A CENTURY, DUE TO
FUCKING IMBECILES LIKE THE QUANTUM GUYS, WHO PRETENDED (VERY ENCOURAGED)
TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD IN A WAY MUCH MORE COMPLEX THAN WHAT IS NEEDED.

EITHER IN RADIO ENGINEERING OR IN QUANTUM PHYSICS, THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE
THE SAME. THIS IS WHAT ALLOWED PROGRESS IN PHOTONICS AS WELL AS ANYTHING
RELATED TO RADIO TELECOM, RANGING, ETC.










>>
>>  - It's a carrier of energy (Planck) that is emitted/absorbed by
>> electrons that
>>    are orbiting atoms, which have different levels of energy.
>
> Forget energy. That is trader talk from Jewish physics. It is force that
> is the keyword. Aether is back thanks to Arindam and all the
> extraordinary bungling wrapped by math gibberish is out.
>>
>>  - It's created as if space of any kind (Maxwell) IGNITES under such
>> discharge
>>    causing that the point-like energy oscillates with electric and
>> magnetic fields
>>    in quadrature, with speed depending on the refraction index of the
>> media.
>
> Blah
>
> WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof
>
> Bertietaylor
>>
>> - Under classic physics (Maxwell, unaware of Planck discovery) photons
>> are not
>>   perceived as a sum of enormous amounts of ray of light (each ray
>> linked to a
>>   bounded electron). On the opposite side, under Planck vision, light is
>> composed
>>   of a large amount of photons, each one with energy E=hf.
>>
>> - The confusion between classic and quantum physics is due to the
>> interpretation
>>   of what light is. In Maxwell's world, light is the sum (coherent or
>> not) of huge
>>   amounts of ray of light (each one a photon), and is expressed in terms
>> of energy
>>   per unit area. In Planck's world, light is the sum (coherent or not)
>> of huge
>>   amount of photons, each one carrying energy E=hf.
>>
>> - The speed of the photon or the ray of light is defined by Maxwell, in
>> terms of
>>   the permittivity and permeability of the medium. The collision of the
>> emitted
>>   energy per atom is what ignites the medium, creating the point-like
>> particle.
>>
>> - The classic representation of light as a sinusoidal wave is just an
>> abstraction
>>   used for more than a century, representing the behavior of the
>> electrical field.
>>
>> - There is not a dual behavior of light. This "paradox" is caused by the
>> confusion
>>   when light is analyzed entirely (Maxwell) or at its least expression
>> (Planck).
>>   Top-down versus bottom-up appreciation of light.
>>
>> - But the point-like structure (the photon) has always been there since
>> 1865-
>>
>>
>> Absolute truth has been spoken.
>
> --