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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: How do simulating termination analyzers work? (V2)
Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 16:25:19 -0400
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On 6/21/25 10:14 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 6/21/2025 5:07 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2025-06-20 19:08:36 +0000, olcott said:
>>
>>> void Infinite_Recursion()
>>> {
>>>    Infinite_Recursion();
>>>    return;
>>> }
>>>
>>> void Infinite_Loop()
>>> {
>>>    HERE: goto HERE;
>>>    return;
>>> }
>>>
>>> void DDD()
>>> {
>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>    return;
>>> }
>>>
>>> int Sipser_D()
>>> {
>>>    if (HHH(Sipser_D) == 1)
>>>      return 0;
>>>    return 1;
>>> }
>>>
>>> int DD()
>>> {
>>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>>    return Halt_Status;
>>> }
>>>
>>> My claim is that each of the above functions correctly
>>> simulated by any termination analyzer HHH that can possibly
>>> exist will never stop running unless aborted by HHH.
>>>
>>> *No one has ever provided a correct rebuttal to that*
>>> *In the several years that it has been reviewed*
>>
>> When there is V2 on the subject line the message should start with
>> a short description of the main difference from the previous version.
>>
> 
> Slightly clearer words.
> 

You mean trying to be better at hiding the lies of equivocation.