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Path: ...!feed.opticnetworks.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: The insane progress nobody is talking about Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 09:12:07 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <a39b7j5949ba7ugvrv8ni4278janntj0ma@4ax.com> References: <slrnv760nq.ve1.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <robertaw-7D4C73.09445219062024@news.individual.net> <hWMcO.78517$qgY9.26150@fx17.iad> <gfl87jt3d5j0fj9u0t9nqt5smjnsf1a4eh@4ax.com> <87jziihidt.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:12:11 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c4b081955ca1839d1759bf972c8fefa3"; logging-data="3414396"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18nPv2R7aBZ6YTk6L2cYuqCIU5WMIGgI6I=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:s/UvvVBlpPG/dIyhXdyHEKMOug4= Bytes: 3011 On 21 Jun 2024 04:20:14 -0300, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote: > >Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> writes: > >> I once was in a situation where every time the Refrigerator (in >> another room, but on the same circuit) powered up, the computer >> rebooted. This gets very old very fast, but illustrates that even your >> home wiring can misbehave and affect what you have plugged in. > >Your very old fridge, rated at 750 watts, draws around 1500 watts to >start, maybe more and for longer if in deteriorating condition. >Thus unknown the duration and size of the voltage drop. At the time, it was about 11 years old -- but that was in 1983, so I have no doubt you are right. It has been replaced with a different model. And the computers are on a different circuit. >My attention was called to this when, over a decade ago, our 40 >y.o. fridge worked fine until I tried to run it on a 1500 watt genset >after a storm when the main gen set had failed. It bogged the >generator down severly when starting. When we re-roofed in 2001, the roofers plugged into the nice outdoor plug our freezer was plugged into. All went well until the freezer (late in the week) started up and blew the circuit breaker. And by "blew" I mean "destroyed": it had to be replaced. That roof nearing the end of its life (per our roof guy, who should know), we did a re-roofing at the start of the month. They used the same outlet, but the freezer had been defrosted and disconnected when my co-owner/brother moved out to be nearer his new job. There were no problems.=20 Stuff happens. Adaptation is a tool that can be used for more that just producing new species. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"