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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder2.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: sci.math Subject: Re: 2N=E Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:20:56 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <a3f1a8c045d260ea779c538c2f5a360631cb7d64@i2pn2.org> References: <vb4rde$22fb4$2@solani.org> <fb930b22-7f79-4a10-858d-a1a9faccc9b9@tha.de> <e2e906ae-48c5-453b-a38f-94c1ebc9ba6b@att.net> <vfgiqa$38oob$1@dont-email.me> <d781add9-cd6b-4fff-9601-111c74f4ae32@att.net> <vfgqa8$39o4h$1@dont-email.me> <a45b5e62-4b8c-4428-83ef-8b9bf62d6981@att.net> <vfj3e9$1e96h$1@solani.org> <40b398d1-40c5-45e9-8615-1cf437af0185@att.net> <vfoqi1$14lcd$6@dont-email.me> <3537899e-e951-4138-b56c-fc76340762b8@att.net> <vftj9t$26ql2$1@dont-email.me> <8b31df46-1361-4dd1-aed3-1f42039af960@att.net> <vfu2qi$29m4j$2@dont-email.me> <84c1bb5d-67db-4d21-918a-f86cd1f815c5@att.net> <vfvefj$9264$2@solani.org> <ca84d22c-3684-4744-a145-a941bac4651f@att.net> <vg0iba$2q8fo$1@dont-email.me> <c2087013-5e5c-4e01-b356-29ffa484bfc2@att.net> <vg0p6j$2ra8e$1@dont-email.me> <vg0u81$2s8he$1@dont-email.me> <vg29sb$36ojr$3@dont-email.me> <vg2cb1$379th$1@dont-email.me> <vg2eqf$36ojq$9@dont-email.me> <vg2i33$38a2j$1@dont-email.me> <vg31uv$3b2rd$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2024 12:20:56 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="590168"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3273 Lines: 29 Am Fri, 01 Nov 2024 18:08:45 +0100 schrieb WM: > On 01.11.2024 13:37, FromTheRafters wrote: >> WM laid this down on his screen : >>> On 01.11.2024 11:59, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>> WM used his keyboard to write : >>>>> On 31.10.2024 22:53, FromTheRafters wrote: >>>>>> WM pretended : >>>>> >>>>>>>> Our sets do not change. >>>>>>> Multiplication of all infinitely many fractions of the open >>>>>>> interval (0, 1) results in some fractions in (1, 2). >>>>>>> Multiplication of all infinitely many numbers of the open interval >>>>>>> (0, ω) result in some numbers in (ω, ω*2). >>>>>> No, there are no finite numbers in the transfinites. >>>>> Numbers like ω + 4 are in the infinite. But if all natural numbers >>>>> are doubled, then numbers in the infinite are produced. >>>> What makes you think so? >>> Simplest mathematics. Doubling increases the value. If all natnumbers >>> are existing, then the greatest existing natnumber is existing too, >> That is not the nature of the set of natural numbers. There is no last, >> that is for finite sets only. > But there are all. No point can escape doubling. >>> Actual infinity is not about variable sets! >> Sets don't change! > Therefore not all doubled elements can be absorbed by the set. Why "absorbed"? Do you think some multiple of a power of 2 is not natural? -- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math: It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.