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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees: Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 04:26:21 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 74 Message-ID: <a6ia4ktpqvsvtpjdmf62rncjcdsjbc0ckl@4ax.com> References: <QIp0Q.31678$Yx54.25393@fx40.iad> <101tp39$21e5g$8@dont-email.me> <j4c54k5g10eepu23c9kk8t0c3th5lchh2i@4ax.com> <101up3r$295cs$4@dont-email.me> <d9q54k1qi32gimfdf1rin9c039auns9kq5@4ax.com> <101urbl$2955p$1@dont-email.me> <1b264klb366b08fn2586kogus2rpoj3o9a@4ax.com> <101vc92$2dgpg$5@dont-email.me> <t2e64kli3qt2lh128qe9cb2avaip4vj30a@4ax.com> <mbd84kd1bf98ehspnjiorka8vvtkr96lgr@4ax.com> <1021fco$31ttg$5@dont-email.me> <1022ujs$3jak1$12@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2025 10:26:26 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="819358dc8c7b26e5a44bbe74358ef3b4"; logging-data="3937648"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX197kBIvXCwo+MjDd3wIlfYyU/aoWqRx7fA=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:KIb6jzvLeIOILxpKIkmYdfd4MEI= On Sat, 7 Jun 2025 23:04:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >On 6/7/2025 9:38 AM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 6/7/2025 7:51 AM, Shadow wrote: >>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 14:52:45 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 14:33:05 -0400, Frank Krygowski >>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6/6/2025 11:35 AM, Shadow wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Florida had one of the worse deaths/million population among >>>>>> all American states(I'm excluding the blible belt states, because >>>>>> praying actually increases death rates among practically all >>>>>> diseases). >>>>>> They should have voted for someone more capable of leading the >>>>>> state. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/political-party-affiliation- >>>>> linked-excess-covid-deaths >>>> >>>> CIDRAP??? >>> >>> No, the source is JAMA. Cidrap is just relaying the >>> information. >>> JAMA is not political, if anything it tends to the right.... >>> []'s >>> >>>> Krygowski apparently believes everything he runs into that >>>> supports his agenda. >> >> >> "JAMA is not political, if anything it tends to the right." >> >> That's hilarious! >> >> For at least 50 years AMA has been proudly hard left, reflecting its >> members' positions (which they ought to reflect). Which is exactly why >> neither my MD brother nor 85% of US licensed MDs belong to AMA. >> >> https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3153537/ > >One statement from that article seems to say otherwise: "The AMA’s >backing of US President Barack Obama’s health care legislation did not >sit well with many physicians and may have cost it some members." > >IOW those members were not hard left. > >FWIW: One of my music friends was a professor at a medical school, and >neuroscience researcher, until he retired. In one long conversation, he >bemoaned the fact that his students' characteristics had changed greatly >over his career. He said that at the start, the typical student actually >was motivated by wanting to help people (as was the physician among my >siblings). But he complained that more recently, students were far less >altruistically motivated, and far less intellectually or professionally >curious. Instead of wanting to learn all they could to best help >patients, they wanted to learn what would be "on the test," and what >would allow them to work towards the highest paying specialty fields. > >Yes, it's an anecdote, and second hand. But for many decades, physicians >did no drive super-expensive cars or live in mega-mansions, as so many >do today. Doctors pulling in many hundreds of thousands of dollars per >year probably see no reason to belong to the AMA at all. And they'd hate >to have any government agency lowering the costs of health care. Likely, another of Krygowski's imaginary conversations with people, who magically, agree with his opinions. -- C'est bon Soloman