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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information. Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 15:28:10 +0200 Lines: 28 Message-ID: <a8l6flx54v.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> References: <vvnvto$3kd3i$1@dont-email.me> <vvo0k4$3kq8j$1@dont-email.me> <vvo5gv$3lr47$1@dont-email.me> <rf8v1klb6d9djefqfr2e2g8f9k3lgotka2@4ax.com> <qRTTP.120685$vK4b.43405@fx09.ams4> <vvpffo$1onh$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net OQaDQ2S+37wpbXC4Zi5+ZAyrGmGCnt7NI5qw+PjI8V9CFrcTjX X-Orig-Path: Telcontar.valinor!not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:caUKH6Ov/y41HV7y/+cJXBswMk4= sha256:3QplDoCtybLPLJlbaf4il4RH9lYoNBjjGEG2qB2kH/A= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: es-ES, en-CA In-Reply-To: <vvpffo$1onh$1@dont-email.me> On 2025-05-11 08:18, Don Y wrote: > On 5/10/2025 7:22 PM, Chris Jones wrote: >> This is largely unnecessary - if the control signal that was being >> sent out by the central controller to micromanage each power source >> was derived from a function of the frequency, phase, voltage etc., >> then rather than trying to distribute the result of this calculation >> to millions of devices with low latency, it is better to distribute >> just the formula (once every few years or as necessary), and run it on >> a microcontroller in the inverters several times every mains cycle. >> They already have more than enough processing power. > > I think any reliance on a "central controller" is inherently flawed. > Model the network. Then, develop a distributed algorithm where > every cogenerator understands its role in generation -- not just that > of dumping power into the network but, also, of constraining the > *overall* network's response. > > I.e., instead of thinking that the cogenerator needs to disconnect > in an anomalous situation, teach it to rectify that situation > within the constraints taht the network model imposes. I see a problem if the network is hacked. Same as routers are hacked today. .... (distributed algorithms) -- Cheers, Carlos.