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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH is *IN*Correctly rejected as
 non-halting V2
Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2024 14:37:07 -0400
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On 7/13/24 2:22 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 7/13/2024 12:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 7/13/24 12:43 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 7/13/2024 11:31 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 7/13/24 12:19 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 7/13/2024 11:05 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/13/24 11:34 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/13/2024 10:25 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/13/24 11:15 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In other words when you are very hungry you have the
>>>>>>>>> free will to decide that you are not hungry at all
>>>>>>>>> and never eat anything ever again with no ill effects
>>>>>>>>> to your health what-so-ever.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just shows that though I have free will, I am also in a Universe 
>>>>>>>> with a lot of determinism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Try and use this free will to make a square circle.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nope, just shows you don't know what you are talking about and 
>>>>>>>> need to switch to Red Herring because you lost the argument.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Face it, all you have proved is that you are nothing but a 
>>>>>>>> pathetic ignorant pathological lying idiot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After HHH has already aborted its simulation of DDD
>>>>>>>>>>> and returns to the DDD that called it is not the same
>>>>>>>>>>> behavior as DDD simulated by HHH that must be aborted.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Right, and the question is about the behavior of DDD, 
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the input finite string not an external process that HHH
>>>>>>>>> has no access to.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Right, but the program it represents, and the question is about IS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HHH cannot be correctly required to report on the behavior
>>>>>>> of an external process that it has no access to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But it has access to the complete representation of it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In other words you are still hungry AFTER you filled
>>>>> yourself with food BECAUSE you are the same person
>>>>> thus the change in process state DOES NOT MATTER.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you need to stop eating so much Herring with Red Sauce, and 
>>>> focus on some of the errors pointed out in your logic rather than 
>>>> just ignoring them, which, in effect, just admitss that you have no 
>>>> idea how to get out of your lies.
>>>
>>> You continue to stupidly insist that DDD specifies
>>> the same behavior before its simulation has been
>>> aborted than after it simulation has been aborted.
>>
>> And you think that HHH partial observation of the some of the behavior 
>> of DDD affects it.
>>
> 
> No stupid you know that I didn't say anything like that.
> 

So HHH has NO evidence to back its claims?

What other evidence does HHH actually have?

Remember, your claim is that DDD does not halt, even if HHH decides that 
DDD is non-halting and returns.

Since it is clear that just running this DDD that calls the HHH(DDD) 
that aborts and returns will cause that DDD to return.

What makes that DDD not halt?

I guess you are just admitting that you are nothing but a LIAR.