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Path: ...!news.misty.com!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Gravitational time dilation HOAX along the years Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 21:31:04 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <ac377b307db816a8230b09bfeb4f602e@www.novabbs.com> References: <84deac76f160f1f681f5275e10d7e683@www.novabbs.com> <wZqcnbZJrLmAZvz6nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3846817"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="HcQFdl4zp4UQRQ9N18ivMn6Fl9V8n4SPkK4oZHLgYdQ"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$Ww7FaCXuAd7NgQwO0cChW.uc/d6k45ucRvskf2AtO7FrQPeh7X90C X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: a2f761a7401f13abeefca3440f16b2f27b708180 Bytes: 5200 Lines: 94 On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 22:28:45 +0000, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 12/17/2024 11:50 AM, rhertz wrote: >> EXCERPTS FROM EINSTEIN'S 1911 PAPER: On the Influence of Gravitation on >> the Propagation of Light >> >> *********************************************************************** >> 2. On the Gravitation of Energy >> ........................................ >> We consider the process of transmission of energy by radiation from S2 >> to S1 from a system K0, which is free of acceleration. >> .................. >> Therefore by the ordinary theory of relativity the radiation arriving at >> S1 does not possess the energy E2, but a greater energy E1, which is >> related to E2; to a rst approximation, by the equation: >> >> (1) E1 = E2 (1 + gh/c²) >> >> By our assumption exactly the same relation holds if the same process >> takes place in the system K, which is not accelerated, but is provided >> with a gravitational field. >> >> In this case we may replace by the potential gh of the gravitation >> vector in S2, if the arbitrary constant of ɸ in S1 is set to zero. We >> then have the equation: >> >> (1a) E1 = E2 + E2 ɸ/c² >> >> This equation expresses the energy law for the process under >> observation. The energy E1 arriving at S1 is greater than the energy E2, >> measured by the same means, which was emitted from S2, the excess being >> the potential energy of the mass E2/c² in the gravitational field. This >> shows that in order to satisfy the energy principle we have to ascribe >> to the energy E, before its emission from S2, a potential energy, due to >> gravity, which corresponds to the (GRAVITATIONAL) MASS E/c². >> ..................................... >> 3. Time and the Velocity of Light in the Gravitational Field >> >> If the radiation emitted in the uniformly accelerated system K0 in S2 >> toward S1 had the frequency f2 relative to the clock at S2, then, >> relative to S1, at its arrival at S1 it no longer has the frequency f2 >> relative to an identical clock at S1, but a greater frequency f1, such >> that, to a first approximation >> >> (2) f1 = f2 (1 + gh/c²) >> >> ****************************************************************************** >> >> >> >> Since 1911, and for more than 100 years, Eq (2) has remained under the >> form Δf/f₀ = gh/c² or equivalent, before or after the 1917 >> Schwarzschild-Hilbert solution in GR. >> >> 1911, Einstein: Δf/f₀ = gh/c² (light has mass E/c², asserted >> Einstein) >> >> 1959, Pound-Rebka: Δf/f₀ = gh/c² (Is Einstein right with light having >> mass?) >> >> 1971, Hafele-Keating: Δτ/τ₀ = gh/c² (Is Einstein right with GR time >> dilation?) >> >> 2015, Mudrak et. all: Δf/f₀ = GMₑ/c² [(a - r)/(ar) + J₂/2] ≈ gh/c² (if >> a ≈ r) >> >> >> >> >> >> ALL OF THE AB0VE CRAP IS FALSE, AND CAN BE TRACED BACK TO THE 1907-1911 >> PERIOD, WHEN THE RETARDED TRIED TO INCORPORATE GRAVITY TO SR. >> >> BY 1915-1917, THE SCHWARZSCHILS-HILBERT PARTICULAR SOLUTION EMERGED, >> WITH A VERY SPECIFIC CONTEXT FOR APPLICABILITY. IN PARTICULAR, THE SUN >> WAS MODELED AS A >> NON-ROTATING POINT-LIKE MASS, WITH MERCURY AS A MASSLESS TEST PARTICLE. >> >> YET, RELATIVISTIC MORONS INSIST ON APPLYING IT TO EVERYTHING ABOVE THE >> EARTH'S SURFACE. EITHER MOVING OR STATIC. BECAUSE THEY ARE IMMORAL >> SOLD-OUTS, THAT SAW A COW TO BE MILKED TO ITS DEATH, WHILE THEY'RE >> PROFITING IN MANY WAYS. >> >> THE PSEUDO-SCIENCE OF RELATIVISM IS USED BY PARASITES TO HAVE A NICE AND >> UNACCOUNTABLE WAY OF LIVING. THEY ALSO RELY ON AMATEURS FOLLOWERS OF THE >> CULT, TO SPREAD THEIR SHIT, TRUSTING IN THEIR BORN IMBECILITY AS >> GULLIBLE CRETINS. > > Actually space-contraction after motion was arrived > at long before that, where what you're looking at > is ten different things mashed into a muddy wad, > and what you're looking at is what _you're_ seeing. Length contraction was one of the first proposed solutions for saving the ether from the MMX, and was the first discarded as ad hoc nonsense, and rightly so.