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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Relativity and the nature of light. Waves or =?UTF-8?B?cGFydGljbGVz?= =?UTF-8?B?Pw==?= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2024 00:07:00 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <ae13e03273dcb7d615c26aab7546daab@www.novabbs.com> References: <729c6c816b598ea72c5e917156b4e9b9@www.novabbs.com> <UvfvfAv_elM_E9_p09xadfbGlkU@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2216196"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="OjDMvaaXMeeN/7kNOPQl+dWI+zbnIp3mGAHMVhZ2e/A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$B4X4tuVw.LOxj/FflFyyjOMDYoEG4fDknZG7gRzGqQVoV/tghbKy6 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 26080b4f8b9f153eb24ebbc1b47c4c36ee247939 Bytes: 2767 Lines: 43 On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 23:03:42 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote: > Le 15/10/2024 à 22:52, hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) a écrit : >> >> It's hard for relativists to accept this, as 110 years of lies with >> einstenian physics COLLAPSE completely. > > It's not 110 years, but 120 years. > > And I won't use the word lie. > > Misinterpretation of the Poincaré-Lorentz transformations, which we > might > not have found until decades later without Poincaré... > > It's not that the theory of relativity is wrong, it's that it's so badly > taught that, on some points, it's downright horrible, and even > completely > wrong. > > "A terrible thing has happened, and everything is nothing but > falsifications, but men like it that way". > Word of God to the prophet I don't know who... > > R.H. You must have noticed that the OP is based on the Point 2 of the 1905 Einstein's paper. I didn't even go with Point 3, where Lorentz transforms are wrongfully developed. So, the question in the OP is pointing exactly at the CORE of SR. If at such early part of the paper, the hypothesis of the 2nd. Postulate IS WRONG, then the entire relativity collapses. Goodbye time dilation, length contraction, relativistic mass of electrons, E=mc2, spacetime and the entire body of GEOMETRY posing as physics, which is general relativity. Just proving that the 2nd. Postulate IS FALSE, and that the speed of light depends on the speed of the emitter IS ENOUGH. Don't make things more complex than what they really are. Just ONE initial hypothesis (2nd. Postulate) is all what's needed to make the entire body of relativity A PILE OF CRAP (which is already, due to highly dubious and CONTESTED experiments in the last 75 years).