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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Paul Wolff <bounceme@thiswontwork.wolff.co.uk> Newsgroups: alt.usage.english,rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: 7 Words That Dogs Can Understand (And 4 That No Dog Can) Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2025 00:03:06 +0000 Lines: 31 Message-ID: <ahb9kWJ623znFA$y@wolff.co.uk> References: <5m79sj1m031j62v551rdjv9i17t4d1g85h@4ax.com> <vqbgc4$2sc1a$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: Paul Wolff <paul@notreally.wolff.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1;format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 30UBB/ii4htU4EoNbywy8A/TcFuzoxqFiJuTd3veh5O+89K1FH X-Orig-Path: thiswontwork.wolff.co.uk!bounceme Cancel-Lock: sha1:eVdd+vCoSp7nK8yvS5vemKKwwLA= sha256:HSyfGmyfrnUxJOOVLt1kZZeJbqVdDm7tzvcB9oc9fyI= User-Agent: Turnpike/6.07-M (<XVoUeOofptFaU2WFSPx$1sb4fU>) Bytes: 2436 On Thu, 6 Mar 2025, at 06:46:28, Hibou posted: >Le 02/03/2025 à 18:16, Judith Latham a écrit : >> >> A dog can understand 7 words. How many barks does a human understand? >> I'll bet it's less than 7. [...] > >It all depends on the meaning of 'to understand'. Words are not simple >things to us. They have denotations and connotations, may conjure up >memories, chunks of knowledge and history (moon, Nazi, empire, >slavery...). They have spellings and pronunciations, declensions and >conjugations, may belong to certain registers and dialects.... Humans >know this. We use our languages with a wealth of understanding. > >Dogs don't. They simply don't have the mental apparatus for it. When >they recognise and respond to 'sit', 'fetch', or 'wait', it's more like >a human responding to a kettle clicking off when it's finished boiling. > >What's really astonishing is that we do have the apparatus. Humans are >extraordinary beings, the product of long and tortuous evolution that >may have few parallels in in the Universe. I find this a sobering >thought. > When we talk of the numbers of /anything/ in the universe, I start by counting the number of galaxies we have seen, and start multiplying from there. But as for dogs, and being a chemist by education, I was very impressed by Six-Thirty. Over a thousand English words, we were told. And he was said to have been based on a real one. (Lessons in Chemistry, q.v.) -- Paul W