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From: John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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On Sun, 18 Aug 2024 09:02:50 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On 8/17/2024 11:37 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2024 21:19:14 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/16/2024 8:08 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>> On 8/16/2024 3:59 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Krygowski has yet to comprehend the simple fact that
>>>>> benefits and
>>>>> detriments are subjective.
>>>>
>>>> Benefits and detriments can very often be measured. The
>>>> benefits of bicycling have been measured in terms of
>>>> increased health, reduced health care costs, years of life
>>>> saved, pollution reduced, etc. etc. I've seen and filed at
>>>> least five studies that have done that, each one showing
>>>> that the benefits of bicycling far outweigh its tiny risks.
>>>>
>>>> The detriments of American gun craziness can also be
>>>> measured. As just one example, huge numbers of schools now
>>>> hire full time security guards in case some whacko with an
>>>> AR attempts to enter the building. The buildings themselves
>>>> are now often "hardened," with various weapon detecting and
>>>> weapon resisting technologies. That was never the case until
>>>> the current gun mania came into fashion; and taxpayers pick
>>>> up the bill for that extra security - as they do for
>>>> advanced protective equipment for most policing. So we all
>>>> pay for the gun fetishists fantasy hobby.
>>>>
>>>> It would make sense to levy a massive tax on every gun with,
>>>> say, more than 6 rounds capacity, to pay for the security
>>>> expenses they generate. But of course, the "Gotta have a big
>>>> gun" crew is also the "No new taxes" crew. They want others
>>>> to pay for their play toys' consequences.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> p.s.
>>> You cannot tax an enumerated right. *example = poll tax)
>>> This is once again in the courts.
>> 
>> But as I've mentioned  a number of times my family has had guns for at
>> least 4 generations, as close as I can calculate 300 years or so, and
>> never shot anyone. Why does Frankie want to penalize us?
>
>No one said anything about taking away traditional hunting rifles and 
>shotguns.

But what are traditional rifles and shotguns? My father had a sporting
rifle built from a 1903 Springfield and a number of commercial
shotguns were used by the army during WW II and in Vietnam essentially
civilian rifles were used as sniper weapons.


>
>> 
>> But, perhaps more germane is the current view is that  many, perhaps
>> most, school shootings are "copy cat" acts  and that the News and
>> others that publicizing these acts may be, at least in part,
>> responsible for these events.
>
>
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>> 
-- 
Cheers,

John B.