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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: john larkin <JL@gct.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Nerve cells in blind mice retain their visual function Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 11:18:47 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <ap4kkj1dqr7qm11nah4kn8pid53l4bpqv9@4ax.com> References: <viblec$5m41$1@solani.org> <1r3s0wg.18a0tha1jgpo5cN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vid0em$16bu9$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 20:18:48 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="91f6c56077a3bd8c399c29b307a15535"; logging-data="1285330"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/UBC73RQEd+zSnCTEjR2zr" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:GF1hg3iUDNhD+D4QtZ+aYELJYI8= Bytes: 2934 On Fri, 29 Nov 2024 12:16:54 -0600, Crash Gordon <uucp@crashelex.com> wrote: >On 11/29/2024 3:04 AM, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >> I recently heard that the presence of a third type of photoreceptor cell >> has been detected in the human eye. As well as rods and cones, there is >> a more primitive light-sensitive mechanism for setting the body clock. > >I was recently in the room with a relative who was being tested with an >unusual method. They were asked to look at a target, close their eyes, >and then touch the target. They missed by several inches. Then the Dr. >would put a colored filter in front of their eyes *after* the eyes were >closed -- and certain colors would improve their ability to find the >target. I would not have believed it if I had not watched it personally. > >There's a video of the technique here: >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qA_tjGCFzgg >using a ringing bell instead of a visual target. The video doesn't >point out that the test is done with eyes closed, but it is. > >It takes several weeks to adjust to wearing the special glasses that are >prescribed; at first my relative could only wear them for two or three >minutes lying down in a dark room with eyes closed, before feeling >dizzy. After a month or so they had built up to the point of being able >to wear them all day. And the glasses* were a big help in treating >their symptoms. > >I asked the Dr. how colored lenses could have any effect on closed eyes, >and they said that there are pathways from eye to brain that are very >sensitive to light but do not connect to the visual cortex. It's pretty >amazing to see it in action. > >===== >*BTW the colored filters are used only for diagnostic purposes. The >glasses themselves are not colored. I can sense hot objects in a room by skin feel, thermal IR receptors of some sort. Directionality is poor.