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In article <uvog6v$1jt55$2@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> On 4/16/24 3:11 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <uvlpfs$u7hv$5@dont-email.me>, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On 4/15/24 10:15 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> On Apr 15, 2024 at 1:34:00 AM PDT, "FPP" <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 4/14/24 2:43 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> In article <uvgtgb$3n4e9$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>>>>    
> >>>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:15:20 PM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 4/9/24 12:46 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2024 at 6:53:43 AM PDT, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/6/24 2:37 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>    . . .
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> And you still haven't explained why Biden hasn't denounced any of
> >>>>>>>>>>> them, since he's decreed that denouncing political violence is 
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> duty of every president.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [Fred Phelps citing headline]
> > 
> >>>>>>>>>>> Fact check: Joe Biden has condemned Antifa, violent protests
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Wait, I thought Antifa didn't exist? Now you're claiming it does
> >>>>>>>>> and that Biden has condemned them?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Wow. Baby steps, I guess.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Or do they only exist to the extent you can win on Usenet today?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It exists as a concept, but not as an organization.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> LOL! So it was a concept that was trying to burn down the federal
> >>>>>>> courthouse every night in Portland during the 2020 Summer of Love,
> >>>>>>> was it?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm so confused about Fred Phelps' position here. These large-scale
> >>>>>> protests that included violence, arson, and vandalism were organized
> >>>>>> through Twitter by people forwarding tweets. An "organization" is a
> >>>>>> body that organizes something. A protest was organized by those 
> >>>>>> tweeting.
> >>>>>    
> >>>>> Of course Effa is full of it here. Even his fellow leftists recognize
> >>>>> Antifa as a thing, not just some ephemeral 'concept'.
> >>>>>    
> >>>>> He acts like since they don't issue membership cards they're not a
> >>>>> group.
> >>>>>    
> >>>>>> fact that they worked in concert is what made them an organization,
> >>>>>> even without being organized as a corporation, partnership, or
> >>>>>> unincorporated society with charters and bylaws and other organic
> >>>>>> documents. Working together by passing the word along is what made
> >>>>>> them an organization.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It exists as a means of organizing among those doing the organizing.
> >>>>>> This is actual, not conceptual. Working together toward a common
> >>>>>> purpose is all that's necessary to be an organization.
> >>>>
> >>>> Two dumbfucks don't make a right.
> >>>>
> >>>>    From House.gov (who have slightly more credibility than two ignorant
> >>>> fucks bitching and whining on Usenet.
> >>>
> >>> Hahahahahahaha! Congress has credibility? Since when?
> >>
> >> 1787. You know... that thing that you took an oath to protect and defend.
> > 
> > Congress didn't exist then. That's the Constitution you're talking
> > about, which is what I took an oath to defend. No one takes an oath to
> > defend Congress, jackass.
> > 
> Constitution written in 1787. Ratified 1788. Met 1789.

Which mean there was no Congress until at least 1789, not 1787 as you 
claimed above.

Any questions?