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Subject: Re: Jimmy Kimmel Calls USA "Filthy And Disgusting" After Traveling to Japan: "We Are Like Hogs Compared to the Japanese"
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In article <17c3b8985ee0397b$2654$3081049$52d51861@news.newsdemon.com>,
 moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:

> On 4/5/2024 6:51 PM, Rhino wrote:
> > On Fri, 5 Apr 2024 13:07:05 -0400
> > moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 4/5/2024 11:32 AM, Rhino wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 4 Apr 2024 23:04:49 -0400
> >>> moviePig <never@nothere.com> wrote:
> >>>    
> >>>> On 4/4/2024 9:21 PM, Rhino wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, 04 Apr 2024 13:02:19 -0700
> >>>>> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>> In article <uumno6$p8sf$2@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>     Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>      
> >>>>>>> Late-night host Jimmy Kimmel said he's looking at America in a
> >>>>>>> new light after a recent visit to Japan.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The 56-year-old said his trip abroad made him realize that the
> >>>>>>> U.S. is unsanitary compared to the land of the rising sun.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "After traveling to Japan, I realize that this place, this USA
> >>>>>>> we're always chanting about, is a filthy and disgusting
> >>>>>>> country," he said during his monologue on Monday night's
> >>>>>>> episode of "Jimmy Kimmel Live."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree with him. My trip to Tokyo was an eye-opener. I've never
> >>>>>> seen a city so clean and beautiful with pleasant, polite, happy
> >>>>>> people everywhere you go. Its only drawback was that-- of all the
> >>>>>> places I've been around the world-- it's one of the harder cities
> >>>>>> to get around and function in if you don't speak the language. I
> >>>>>> thought at the time that if I spoke and read Japanese, I'd
> >>>>>> consider living in Tokyo for good if I could.
> >>>>>>      
> >>>>> One of my friends and his wife taught English in Japan for a
> >>>>> couple of years back in the early 80s. He assured me that it's
> >>>>> really easy and logical to get around in Japan via public
> >>>>> transit, especially rail. I don't think he had any Japanese when
> >>>>> he got there, although they certainly learned some during their
> >>>>> two years there. Even years later, he could recite all the stops
> >>>>> between Tokyo and the city where they worked, which was two or
> >>>>> three hours away from Tokyo.
> >>>>>> Coming back to the shit-pile Los Angeles has become in just the
> >>>>>> last 10 short years was very disheartening.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's no surprise it would be especially noticeable to Kimmel,
> >>>>>> whose show's home is in an old Masonic temple right across
> >>>>>> Hollywood Blvd from the Chinese Theater and the
> >>>>>> Hollywood-and-Highland Complex, where fentanyl addicts stagger
> >>>>>> around like WALKING DEAD extras, crime is out of control,
> >>>>>> vagrants tents and trash mountains abound, and dead bodies lying
> >>>>>> on the sidewalk are a routine occurrence.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Coming back to that from Japan would be quite a contrast indeed.
> >>>>>>      
> >>>>>>> Kimmel went on to describe how he used to believe that while the
> >>>>>>> U.S. had "areas for improvement," it was mostly ahead in terms
> >>>>>>> of cleanliness compared to most of the rest of the world.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "I go to Europe, and there are dirt holes where plumbing is
> >>>>>>> supposed to be. I hold my breath, and I go, 'I'm glad I'm not
> >>>>>>> one of these people,' and then I go back home," he continued.
> >>>>>>> Kimmel went on to praise the cleanliness of the bathrooms in
> >>>>>>> Japan.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "The bathrooms in Tokyo and Kyoto are cleaner than our operating
> >>>>>>> rooms here. Everywhere you go the bathrooms are clean, they
> >>>>>>> don't smell bad, they have those toilets that wash you from the
> >>>>>>> inside out," he marveled. Kimmel also joked that even truck stop
> >>>>>>> restrooms were "cleaner than Jennifer Garner's teeth -- the
> >>>>>>> cleanest. Beautiful."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "And it's not just the bathrooms," the host added. "People carry
> >>>>>>> their own trash. There are no garbage cans," Kimmel said,
> >>>>>>> mentioning the 1995 terrorist incident when a man put poisonous
> >>>>>>> sarin gas in trash cans.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Yes! I noticed that. I had to carry around an empty Coke can for
> >>>>>> several hours because there was nowhere on the street to put it.
> >>>>>>      
> >>>>>>> This resulted in the country removing public trash receptacles
> >>>>>>> and Japanese citizens adapting to dispose of their own garbage.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "They're like OK, no more trash cans, everybody clean up after
> >>>>>>> yourselves. And guess what -- they clean up after themselves!
> >>>>>>> They bring their garbage to their houses," he added.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "It's like the whole country is Disneyland, and we're living at
> >>>>>>> Six Flags," Kimmel said. "I've been home 36 hours, I have never
> >>>>>>> felt dirtier. We are like hogs compared to the Japanese. I can't
> >>>>>>> imagine what they must think of us. 'Oh, the garbage people.
> >>>>>>> Yes, the Americans. Garbage.'"
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [NYC was much cleaner before several Demcorats were running it,
> >>>>>>> Jimmy-Boy.]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There may be an easy solution to littering. Many years ago, when I
> >>>>> was just a pup, I remember an episode of Wonderful World of Disney
> >>>>> where they talked about the state of littering in some historic
> >>>>> places and/or national parks, perhaps Mt. Rushmore or Yellowstone.
> >>>>> They had a little jingle going as they showed these scenes and I
> >>>>> still remember a snippet of it to this day: "Litterbug, litterbug,
> >>>>> don't you care? Making a mess everywhere!" I don't think I've
> >>>>> littered since I saw that, although there were probably a couple
> >>>>> of other moments along the way that reinforced that. I just hold
> >>>>> on to any litter I generate - or put it in my pocket - until I
> >>>>> get to a garbage can. I barely even think about it: it's just
> >>>>> programmed into my brain.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I suppose you could characterize that as brain-washing and I
> >>>>> suppose it's true but it worked and I can't find anything evil in
> >>>>> it, unlike the sort of brain-washing/indoctrination so many
> >>>>> schools do today.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why don't we do more of this? The world wouldn't suddenly be clean
> >>>>> and tidy overnight but it would probably clean up gradually if we
> >>>>> were all persuaded to litter less.
> >>>>
> >>>> People litter because other people litter ...preventable only by
> >>>> police.
> >>>>   
> >>> Nonsense. I just told you how I was persuaded not to litter. No
> >>> police involvement at all.
> >>
> >> Now you just need a reason to believe you're not the Western
> >> exception.
> >>
> > And you need a reason to believe the police will actually enforce
> > littering bylaws when they don't even respond to much more serious
> > crimes. Just a few weeks ago, Toronto police officers were telling
> > people to leave their doors unlocked and to leave their car keys near
> > the door so that car thieves could more easily steal their cars without
> > having to threaten family members for them! Does that sound like a
> > police force that will charge people for LITTERING? I don't know what
> > planet you "progressives" are living on but I wish you'd stay on THEIR
> > Usenet and stay the hell off ours!
> 
> When you come up for air, notice that -- barring insurrection -- a 
> police force will do as it's instructed.  If a community wants it badly 
> enough, littering (in a defined area) can be brought to a sudden halt.

Which is one of the reasons Japan is so cleaned. Littering gets you a 
5-year prison sentence.