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<1647836400.736806466.284585.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
 anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> Yes, our beloved Robin has viciously thrashed Ian once again, beating him
> to this fantastic news!
> 
> https://deadline.com/2024/05/ncis-tony-ziva-spinoff-series-title-1235907546/
> 
> NCIS TONY & ZIVA Spinoff Series Gets Official Title
> 
> By Nellie Andreeva
> May 7, 2024 10:34am
> 
> Paramount's Tony & Ziva NCIS spinoff is untitled no more. The two stars of
> the Europe-set series, Michael Weatherly and Cote de Pablo, got on Zoom to
> unveil the moniker of the offshoot Tuesday.
> 
> After referencing a couple of titles that had been floated, NCIS: EUROPE
> and NCIS: TRUS NO ONE, the duo announced that the official title of their
> new show will be NCIS: TONY & ZIVA.
> 
> "It makes it really easy because the fans will know exactly what the show
> is. It's about Tony and Ziva in Europe," de Pablo said.

Which, much like FBI: INTERNATIONAL will be absolutely ridiculous from 
top to bottom, with American law enforcement running around Europe 
shooting guns and kicking in people's doors and arresting Europeans on 
their own soil.

I mean, imagine the reverse: would we put up with even our closest 
allies sending armed police onto our streets, physically arresting our 
citizens or storming their homes? Not for one goddam second would we 
tolerate that.

But that's exactly what happens on the FBI show, and now this NCIS show 
will certainly be much of the same. FBI agents kicking in doors in 
France and tackling French citizens to the ground and handcuffing them. 
Oh, and I forgot about ordering the local police around like the FBI is 
their boss. That one's always good for a belly laugh. FBI aren't even 
allowed to carry guns in Europe. I had a friend in the Bureau who was 
assigned as legat in Madrid and he had to fly to DC three times a year 
to qualify on his pistol since it wasn't legal for him as a foreign 
national to possess a firearm on Spanish soil even just to qualify on a 
range.

Of course the producers have to completely ignore reality if they want 
to make an international police show because reality would be extremely 
boring and would have the stars of the show doing nothing but standing 
around watching while the local police did all the exciting stuff.

That's exactly what it was like for me when I would work foreign 
presidential visits. On a visit to Germany, some guy in Berlin started 
making threats to the president on the Facebook and DC tracked him down 
easily enough, got his name, address, personal history, etc. and then 
told me to go interview him. Not arrest him, just talk to him. And I 
wasn't even allowed to do that. The Berlin polizei took all the info we 
had, went and picked him up and did the interview themselves. I was only 
allowed to submit questions for them to ask, then watch from outside the 
room as they conducted the interview. In the end, they determined what 
he'd said didn't violate German law, so they released him. And that was 
the extent of what I was allowed to do. And no, I wasn't allowed to walk 
around armed, either. They allowed us to carry our pistols (but not 
handcuffs) on the day of the actual visit, but for the two weeks ahead 
of the visit while we there doing the advance work, no guns were allowed.

Like I said, makes for a boring TV show.

(There were times when we the locals wouldn't allow us to be armed at 
all and the security environment was such that we weren't going to take 
no for answer. On a visit to Mexico with Bush, the Mexicans wouldn't 
allow any firearms, so DC flew in a package with every agent's 
diplomatic passport and handed our guns out to us on the day of the 
visit. That way we'd be armed but if any Mexican cop or official tried 
to jam up an agent, he'd have diplomatic immunity and the worst they 
could do would be to kick him out of the country.)