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In article <20240521153523.000066b7@example.com>,
 Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 May 2024 23:30:49 +0000
> BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> > > BTR1701 <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:  
> > >> It's called the Homeownership Down Payment Program and it provides
> > >> a $25,000 forgivable loan only to buyers who are black, indigenous
> > >> or people of color who are buying a permanently affordable home
> > >> through the Champlain Housing Trust or its partner agencies across
> > >> the state.
> > >> 
> > >> https://www.wcax.com/2024/04/15/program-help-bipoc-vermonters-become-home
> > >> owners-expanding/?outputType=amp
> > >> 
> > >> ----------------------
> > >> There are plenty of low income white people who could use a leg up
> > >> to help buy a home but they're shit out of luck in Vermont, where
> > >> they'll be told they have the wrong skin color to access that
> > >> benefit.
> > >> 
> > >> I wonder how they'll treat someone who is half-white and
> > >> half-black? Maybe it goes by looks. If you look black enough, like
> > >> Obama, you get the loan. If your white parent's genes came
> > >> through, then no loan for you. 
> > > 
> > > "Indigenous" isn’' even a real thing. How do you claim that status?
> > > Shouldn't anybody who wants it just be able to say they are?  
> > 
> > Yep. I'm indigenous. I was born in Kentucky and I'm not from anywhere
> > else.
> > 
> > And while you might say, yes, but your forebears aren't from North
> > America... well, that applies to the people who are considered
> > "indigenous", too. No flavor of human being is actually indigenous to
> > North America. We all originally came from somewhere else.
> > 
> > But much like 'African-American', any white people who actually
> > qualify under their politically correct jargon will be told "that's
> > not what we mean".
> 
> Like the white South African who emigrated to America, got his
> citizenship, and filled in every HR form with the term
> "African-American". (This apparently drove the HR people nuts but there
> was nothing they could do about it.) 
> 
> I also heard about an Egyptian-American woman who was born and raised
> in Egypt who ticked the "African-American" box but got chastised for
> it. 
> 
> Personally, I'd love to check the "African-American" box given the
> opportunity. If challenged I would point to my (distant) African
> ancestors.

I've considered doing that on occasion, too. We're all from Africa if 
you go back far enough.

> After all, every person on Earth is descended from the first
> humans who evolved in Africa. Although humans EVENTUALLY migrated to
> other continents, they spent many millenia in Africa before even the
> first migrations took place. That's gotta count for something!