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In article <29pc5jp3p8s94kg49cf5ukgbedrp64frlt@4ax.com>,
 shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 28 May 2024 13:02:38 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> >In article 
> ><707707518.738580846.093511.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
> > anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> >> Re: Dr. Who Review | Season 14 Premiere "Space Babies" is So DAMN AWFUL
> >> It Nearly Makes My Head EXPLODE!
> >> Callum Williamsh <callumwilliamsh1@gmail.com>
> >> May 25, 2024 at 1:28?PM
> >> Ncuti Gatwa isn't playing The Doctor, Ncuti Gatwa is playing himself.
> >> RTD has become ideologically compromised. It's hard to reconcile that
> >> it's the same writer who came up with this drivel previously wrote such
> >> bangers as Utopia, Midnight, The Waters of Mars, Turn Left, The Stolen
> >> Earth and Journey's End. The 'message' first, everything else secondary
> >> or not at all. This isn't Doctor Who. The hiatus can't come quickly
> >> enough.
> >
> >I see that the they/them who is playing the Doctor now is blaming the 
> >fans for the fact that ratings are cratering. 
> 
> That's correct. The people that have been watching DR WHO for years
> are the fans. If they don't like what the show does they stop
> watching. Still a fan of the show but just not watching what they are
> making at the moment. Change what they are making to something the
> fans like and they will likely return. 
> The problem they are having is (and they stated this was their
> purpose) they are making the show for a wider audience that wasn't
> interested in the show. Since they weren't interested they aren't
> watching. Maybe they will eventually, maybe they won't, but for now
> those non-fans aren't watching and many of the fans aren't watching.
> It's a winning decision by Disney and the BBC to focus on the message
> (DEI is great) instead of putting the story first.
> 
> >He says they're "-ists" and "-phobes" and that's why the show is tanking. 
> >It's the fans' fault, not the fact that we now have a Doctor who prances
> >around in a dress and frets about pronouns.
> 
> It's the same thing that the Star Wars people are saying as to why
> their shows aren't doing well. Everything wrong with the viewer ship
> numbers is blamed on toxic fans. No one steps up to say maybe the
> stories just aren't that good and that's why people aren't watching. 
> ANDOR shows that if they write a good story people will watch. Movies
> like ALIENS and even TOMB RAIDER show that if they write a good story
> with a female lead people will watch.

Don't forget TERMINATOR. Ripley is great and all, but I've always 
thought Sarah Connor was the most iconic female action hero. She had the 
biggest transformative arc, from serving burgers at Big Buns to mother 
of the resistance.

> So it isn't the fact that people hate women as lead characters or
> shows or movies that include lesbian/gay characters. It's that people
> hate boring stories. Stories that don't go any where or move them
> emotionally. Stories that may have no action in them. Give people
> stories that they can get involved in and people will watch. Why
> Disney and the BBC don't admit that this is what they need and aren't
> giving the viewers is something I will never understand. Iger keeps
> saying he doesn't have an agenda after which he will point out how
> Disney is focused on inclusion and DEI above all else (sure sounds
> like an agenda to me.) Apparently they are focused on it above making
> money too.