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In article <v2akce$2roir$1@dont-email.me>,
 moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 5/18/2024 12:09 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > On May 17, 2024 at 6:43:52 PM PDT, "Rhino" <no_offline_contact@example.com>
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> On Fri, 17 May 2024 00:42:52 -0700
> >> The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
> >>
> >>>   On Thu, 16 May 2024 13:09:59 -0700, BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>   >Yes, and because the current system isn't a dream for sight-readers,
> >>>   >that means it's a racist form of white supremacy.
> >>>   >
> >>>   >(Because only white people can sight read perfectly or something.)
> >>>   >
> >>>   ><rolls eyes>
> >>>   
> >>>   I'm pretty sure there were and are a few black musicians who have
> >>>   managed the feat and somehow a lot of the concert pianists these days
> >>>   are of Asian origin...
> >>
> >> I wouldn't expect that to continue if I were you.
> >>
> >> As I understand it, Asian musicians expressed concerns that they
> >> weren't getting performance gigs as white musicians and attributed this
> >> to race. To address that, all or most auditions for orchestras started
> >> being done behind screens so that the judges could only hear the
> >> performance but not see the performer. But apparently Asians are now
> >> seen as white or white allies and a certain group of people who I'll
> >> call People of Darker Colour (PODC) are demanding that they simply be
> >> given positions on orchestras without auditioning because they have
> >> been discriminated against in the past. I assume they're proposing some
> >> kind of quota system but I'm not sure what percentage of the slots
> >> they're demanding.
> >>
> >> Now, I don't know if this proposal is finding any support among the
> >> people who decide these things but, given the way things are going in
> >> general, I would be surprised if this was NOT done. Competence is going
> >> out of the window to be replaced by hiring on the basis of skin colour.
> >>
> >> I'm sure the usual suspects will be along momentarily to deny all of
> >> this and/or defend it.
> > 
> > Yes, during the height of the Saint Floyd of Fentanyl riots, where 
> > literally everything in America was discovered to be racist, there was
> > an article in the New York Times that asserted that the blind audition
> > system used by most professional orchestras and ensembles was racist
> > because it *prevents* racial bias in the hiring process.
> > 
> > The 'problem' is that when musicians play behind a screen and the judges 
> > have no idea who the person is, what race they are, what gender they are,
> > etc., it takes away the judge's ability to racially discriminate. This
> > used to be considered a good thing, but in today's woke world, the
> > inability to racially discriminate (i.e., give preference to blacks over
> > whites) is a major problem that needs fixing. Blind auditions tend to
> > result in orchestras being problematically white and Asian. When pure
> > talent and ability are the only factors available upon which to base a
> > decision, the resulting orchestras aren't 'diverse' enough for the
> > intelligentsia.
> > 
> > So now, rather than blind auditions, the wokesters want to remove that 
> > screen so the judges see the players, can actively discriminate against
> > whites and Asians, and make hiring decisions based on race and gender,
> > rather than ability to play the music.
> > 
> > Anyone who thinks a level playing field and the elimination of racial
> > discrimination is the goal of the modern 'progressive'... well, I have a 
> > few bridges to sell them.
> > 
> > And with all the hand-wringing over how they needed to get rid of blind
> > auditions so that they can 'fix' the problem of too many white classical
> > musicians, there strangely was no plan to 'fix' the problem of too many 
> > black basketball players (or any recognition that it even is a problem
> > in the first place). Wonder why that is?
> 
> In so many words, you're complaining about 'affirmative action' as 
> though it were a moral absurdity. Does that sum up your view?

I'm complaining about making an orchestra less than world class so that 
you can pat yourself on the back for sticking it to whitey.

Yes. Giving someone a seat on stage for any other reason than that they 
can do the job is morally abhorrent. I'm not surprised you cheerlead for 
it.

Of course Asians are historically oppressed minorities, too, and they 
somehow manage to not only make it into these ensembles on sheer talent 
and merit alone, but dominate them. Weird how that's not seen as a 
'diversity' success but a problem that needs 'fixing'.