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Subject: Re: In Defense of Fred Freiberger
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<397877434.736757449.237126.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>,
 anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:

> BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> > On May 6, 2024 at 6:27:29 PM PDT, "anim8rfsk" <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> > 
> >> Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 6 May 2024 14:46:02 -0700
> >>> anim8rfsk <anim8rfsk@cox.net> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Last week I created a video claiming that Fred Freiberger was
> >>>>> responsible for the demise of such shows as "Star Trek", "Space
> >>>>> 1999", "The Six Million Dollar Man" and others, but was he? We'll
> >>>>> re-examine that today!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqn_DJdZQGw  
> >>>> 
> >>>> Man was an incompetent menace.
> >>>> 
> >>> I recently saw a quote from Shatner where he defended Freiberger,
> >>> saying he did the best he could with a severely reduced budget. 
> >>> 
> >>> Maybe Shatner wrote the IMDB article on Freiberger which says:
> >>> 
> >>> ===========================================================
> >>> Because of a planned European vacation, he then spurned an offer by
> >>> Gene Roddenberry to produce Star Trek (1966) from the onset. 
> >> 
> >> I've never heard that before and I'd go far enough as to call it a
> >> blatant lie
> >> 
> >>> However, in 1968, he took up the option to produce the show in its
> >>> final season. By then, severe budgetary cuts (which resulted in many
> >>> 'bottle show' episodes and lower quality scripts), the exodus of top
> >>> creative talent and the take-over of Desilu by Paramount
> >> 
> >> I'll also call that a blatant lie. While it happened, it had happened at
> >> the first season.
> > 
> > And weren't *all* the episodes of TOS "bottle show" episodes? I don't 
> > remember there being any kind of multiple episode or season-long story
> > arcs.

> They used the wrong wording. They meant "ship board shows"
> The studio and the network were always at odds because the network wanted
> planet shows which were more expensive and the studio wanted ship board
> shows because they were more economical for obvious reasons.

Makes sense.