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In article <v1ujlq$3uc8o$1@dont-email.me>,
 moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

> On 5/13/2024 7:30 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <v1u6e3$3o2h8$1@dont-email.me>,
> > moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 5/13/2024 6:33 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>> In article <v1u2bf$3n232$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 5/13/2024 4:35 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>> In article <v1tp0v$3krav$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 5/13/2024 1:47 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>> In article <v1tb17$3hi6h$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 5/12/2024 10:59 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In article <v1rtuq$37l07$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2024 7:01 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On May 12, 2024 at 3:54:42 PM PDT, "moviePig" 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <nobody@nowhere.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/12/2024 6:16 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <v1lpp9$1gnv5$1@dont-email.me>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> moviePig <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/10/2024 1:56 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And now the Scarf Lady, Dr. Deborah Birx, says that thousands
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Americans could be injured from the mRNA Wuhan Flu shot
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and that some groups should not have been forced to get
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the jab.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weird how she wasn't saying that when Biden's decree was 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "take the shot or you're fired" in the federal government.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Back then, she and your vaunted 'fact checkers' would only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> repeat the mantra that it's 'safe and effective'.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You mean it *shouldn't* have been called safe and 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> effective?...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>        
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ask the people who were injured from the jab whether they think
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the government should have told them it was safe.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm asking what a responsible public health official ought to 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> have said.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> How about the truth?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The truth is that every medical procedure *including NO
> >>>>>>>>>> procedure* carries some risk.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> And an ethical medical professional explains the type and
> >>>>>>>>> extent of that risk, as well as its frequency of occurrence in
> >>>>>>>>> the population.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> They don't ignore the risk and just tell you "it's safe and
> >>>>>>>>> effective". (And don't forget the denigration and censorship of
> >>>>>>>>> anyone who suggested otherwise, who have yet again turned out
> >>>>>>>>> to be right in the end.)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> People who know there's always a small risk don't need to be told. 
> >>>>>>>> And people who *don't* know it will grossly overreact when they
> >>>>>>>> *are* told.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So once again, it's okay for the government to lie to us for our own
> >>>>>>> good.
> >>>>>>>      
> >>>>>>>> So, the public at large heard "safe and effective", which, in 
> >>>>>>>> context, the vaccine very much was. Meanwhile, one needn't support
> >>>>>>>> censorship to strongly disapprove of sensationalist life-threatening 
> >>>>>>>> disinformation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Once again, real-world decisions appear simplest to those who don't 
> >>>>>> have to make them. But happily, in this instance, the vaccine *was*
> >>>>>> safe.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Except for the people who were injured by it.
> >>>>
> >>>> This just in:  Don't risk getting out of bed tomorrow...
> >>>
> >>> This just in: People have a right to know all the risks of drugs they're
> >>> not just being asked to take, but ordered to take under threat of loss
> >>> of their livelihood.
> >>
> >> I'll bet that *all* the risks of *any* vaccine will run to thousands of
> >> words
> > 
> > The government has the bandwidth.
> 
> But the issue is that the public doesn't.

Ah, yet more infantalization and condescension from the government.

And, of course, not only does the government lie to us for own good, it 
has to also make sure that we don't tell each other the truth, so it 
labels truthful statements 'disinformation' and coerces online platforms 
to censor it.

Can't have citizens undermining carefully crafted government lies (for 
our own good!), can we?