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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Xocyll <Xocyll@gmx.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action Subject: Re: Carmack's Revenge Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 12:19:20 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 79 Message-ID: <au713kd4ots9i0lb248an2bk35v823vk3j@4ax.com> References: <2te92kpih0mrcsdepctjks546ocklbjl5t@4ax.com> <1sp03k9hnerif3klvdb60i9iivhf9jmv8j@4ax.com> <100q01c$47hc$1@dont-email.me> <3l213kpjh5dq280vd5ftmgjdhmosdbouvc@4ax.com> <bg613k9umic4tphvjrsr080jvb6dp6h3rm@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 18:19:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="01cdea7d1f34db4781600c10d3f0a388"; logging-data="186295"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19h8rS+OjG818t5jDYChIrT" Cancel-Lock: sha1:WEEDgmIK6D5pAcY46RvHRcq/Hxw= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Avast (VPS 250523-4, 5/23/2025), Outbound message X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 2.0/32.640 Bytes: 4661 Zaghadka <zaghadka@hotmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say: >On Fri, 23 May 2025 10:49:06 -0400, in comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action, >Xocyll wrote: > >>Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> looked up from reading the >>entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >>say: >> >>>On 5/23/2025 5:21 AM, Xocyll wrote: >>>> Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the >>>> entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs >>>> say: >>>> >>>>> John Carmack once wrote about Doom, "Story in a game is like story in >>>>> a porn movie. It's expected to be there, but its not that important". >>>>> So it amuses me to no end that, with the advent of "Doom: Dark Ages" >>>>> Doom-lore has grown so extensive levels that it literally takes three >>>>> hours to describe it all. >>>>> >>>>> The DOOM Timeline | COMPLETE DOOM Story & Lore >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5OdQYASIPQ&t >>>>> (length: three hours, thirteen minutes and 59 seconds) >>>>> >>>>> (admittedly, the narrator is extremely slow. A good editor could >>>>> probably cut it down to one-third that length. But who am I to bitch >>>>> about somebody being excessively verbose? ;-) >>>>> >>>>> Honestly, one of the unspoken marvels of the nuDoom games is how they >>>>> managed to link together /all/ the different aspects of the Doom >>>>> franchise --be it the original games, the spin-offs like Doom64, or >>>>> even those awful movies-- into one cohesive (if not entirely logical) >>>>> narrative. I rather liked how they gave the demons more depth and >>>>> history than just random evil-things that you shoot, and I'm not >>>>> immune to the appeal of the power-fantasy that is the Doom Guy's >>>>> story. >>>>> >>>>> The original Doom games were fun, but too self-contained. Monsters >>>>> appear, you kill them, end of story. "Doom 2016" --and more >>>>> importantly, "Doom Eternal"-- added enough new nooks and crannies that >>>>> the we can keep adventuring on for years. "Doom: Dark Ages" is just >>>>> one such exploration of that lore. >>>>> >>>>> That said... even I have to admit it's a /bit/ much for a game that, >>>>> mechanically, is so simplistic. It's like somebody making a two-hour >>>>> Hollywood blockbuster out of a single game of Rock-Paper-Scissors. It >>>>> just seems so overboard and out of place for a game that relishes in >>>>> gore and guns. >>>> >>>> With Keanu Reeves as Rock, Nicholas Cage as Paper and Dwayne Johnson as >>>> Scissors. >>>> >>>> <snip> >>>> >>>> Xocyll >>> >>>What a minute here! How can Dwayne Johnson NOT be The Rock?! Keanu >>>Reeves should be Scissors, he does more blade work. But I agree that >>>Nicholas Cage is paper. :) >> >>Dwayne being Rock is too obvious, subvert expectations! >> >Johnny Depp should be scissors, for his work as Edward Scissorhands. Again, too obvious. If Dwayne can play a Tooth Fairy, he can play scissors. Xocyll -- I don't particularly want you to FOAD, myself. You'll be more of a cautionary example if you'll FO And Get Chronically, Incurably, Painfully, Progressively, Expensively, Debilitatingly Ill. So FOAGCIPPEDI. -- Mike Andrews responding to an idiot in asr -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com