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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Want to prove =?UTF-8?B?RT1tY8KyPyBVbml2ZXJzaXR5IGxhYnMgc2hvdWxkIHRyeSB0?= =?UTF-8?B?aGlzIQ==?= Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 00:46:05 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <b00a0cb305a96b0e83d493ad2d2e03e8@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2810778"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="OjDMvaaXMeeN/7kNOPQl+dWI+zbnIp3mGAHMVhZ2e/A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 26080b4f8b9f153eb24ebbc1b47c4c36ee247939 X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$SoHw1lED4OO92uwkSi01Pe1gzjTeNVU9sySddGow5V4.4ji6X8AlS Bytes: 5351 Lines: 124 Current "state of the art" weighting technology (expensive) can measure about 1 nanogram of MASS. I asked ChatGPT this question: "If I use a high precision laser having 5 Watts steady power for 72 hours, injecting the light into an almost perfect reflective cavity (more than 99% of reflectivity), can I prove that the internal MASS increased as m=E/c² states? ChatGPT answered this: Conclusion If the laser operates for 72 hours, the theoretical mass increase inside the cavity is approximately 14.4 picograms, but in practice, the steady-state energy inside the cavity will be significantly lower due to losses. Proving this mass increase experimentally would require an exceptionally controlled setup and cutting-edge measurement tools. While it is a challenging experiment, its successful execution would provide a novel confirmation of m=E/c² in an optical context! I simplify calculations here: 5 Watts x 72 Hr = 1,296,000 Joules (Kg.m²/s²) MASS increase in 72 Hr = 1.0368 μgrams of MASS WEIGHT INCREASE = 1.007 μgrams of WEIGHT ≈ 1.007E-09 Newtons ChatGPT WARNINGS: Challenges in Proving the Mass Increase While the mass increase is theoretically calculable, there are practical hurdles: 1. Energy Retention in the Cavity Steady-State Limit: A laser does not continuously add energy to a cavity indefinitely. After a certain time, the energy inside the cavity stabilizes at a steady state determined by: E(stored) = P(laser)/P(loss) x τ τ is the cavity’s photon lifetime. Real cavities lose energy through mirror transmission, scattering, and absorption. Even with highly reflective mirrors (99.999%), steady-state energy may be orders of magnitude smaller than the total energy delivered by the laser. 2. Balance Sensitivity Mass Changes: To measure a steady increase up to 1.0368 μgrams of MASS, you would need an extremely sensitive device like an electromagnetic balance or other precision mass measurement tools with sub-μgram sensitivity. Current state-of-the-art balances can detect mass changes at this scale, but such measurements are delicate and require isolation from vibrations, air currents, and thermal effects. 3. Environmental Interference Thermal Effects: Energy absorption by mirrors or cavity components can cause thermal expansion or convection currents that might mimic a weight change. Radiation Pressure: The laser light exerts a tiny force on the mirrors, which might introduce additional complications. 4. Loss Compensation Not all the laser energy is stored. The difference between the laser's energy input and the cavity’s steady-state energy is lost as heat, scattered light, or transmitted light. This loss must be carefully accounted for to isolate the contribution of stored energy to the mass increase. Experimental Considerations to maximize your chances of success: High-Q Cavity: Use ultra-high-reflectivity mirrors to maximize energy retention and reduce losses. Sensitive Instrumentation: Employ a precision electromagnetic balance capable of detecting picogram-scale changes. Environmental Isolation: Perform the experiment in a vacuum chamber and on an isolated platform to reduce noise. Calibration: Account for all sources of error, including thermal effects and laser power fluctuations. *********************************************** BUT WHAT REALLY MATTERS HERE IS THAT THE AI ENGINE CONFIRMED THAT NOBODY IN THE ENTIRE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY HAS EVEN TRIED EXPERIMENTS OF THIS SORT, WHICH ARE CONCEPTUALLY SIMPLE! WHY, I ASK? MAYBE THE RESULTS COULD BE SHOCKING! With a little of ingenuity, you could try this at home, using a DIFFERENTIAL ELECTROMAGNETIC BALANCE. Here is a guide: Homemade Microgram Electrobalance https://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/equipment/scale.html You should add a DIFFERENTIAL BALANCE, with two cavities (one with the laser turned off). Here is a company that sells microgram balances ($10,000 and up), mainly for Big Pharma companies. https://www.mt.com/us/en/home/products/Laboratory_Weighing_Solutions/microbalances/ultra-micro-balance.html HEY!, THERE IS A CHANCE THAT YOU CAN CONFIRM OR DISPROVE E=mc². AND BY DISPROVING IT, RELATIVITY GOES TO THE TRASH BIN. ALL OF IT, AND DERIVATIONS APPLIED ALL OVER THE REALM OF PHYSICS!