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On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 19:32:36 +0000, LaurenceClarkCrossen wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 19:18:37 +0000, Richard Hachel wrote:
>
>> Le 25/12/2024 à 18:55, clzb93ynxj@att.net (LaurenceClarkCrossen) a écrit
>> :
>>>> Jan
>>> This is how you are mistaken:
>>> Hilbert said, "Every boy in the streets of Gottingen understands more
>>> about four-dimensional geometry than Einstein. Yet, in spite of that,
>>> Einstein did the work and not the mathematicians."
>>> You clearly misconstrued that.
>>
>> C'est un mathématicien qui a fait cela, et le premier a avoir donné les
>> prémices de la relativité restreinte, c'est Henri Poincaré.
>> Einstein n'a fait que recopier (probablement aidé d'ailleurs par les
>> médecins et mathématiciens allemands).
>> De même qu'il a recopié Hilbert et Gross.
>> D'ailleurs, comment expliquer qu'un gars absolument nul en mathématique
>> ait pu dépasser le plus grand mathématicien de l'époque, puis montrer
>> sa virtuosité devant des espaces hyperboliques. C'est absurde. Cela
>> tient
>> de la religiosité.
>> On s'est mis à adorer une "création divine" et un saint prophète.
>> C'est incroyable à dire, mais il faut le génie d'Hachel (une sorte de
>> Columbo et de Sherlock Holmes) lorsqu'il réfléchit aux comportements
>> historiques des humains pour comprendre ce qui s'est passé. Il s'est
>> passé la même chose entre Jésus-Christ et Saint Paul (l'Antéchrist de
>> lumière). Le Christ venant avec, aussitôt (le diable n'attend jamais une
>> seconde) l'Antichrist sur les talons pour déformer le message, et le
>> remplacer par une doctrine à la con de "rédemption par le sang du
>> Christ".
>> Einstein n'a pas attendu trois mois (même pas trois mois) pour copier
>> les
>> transformations de Poincaré, et en réclamant "qu'il ne connaît pas ce
>> monsieur". Ne riez pas les amis, ce n'est pas drôle. Sauf qu'avant de
>> mourir Einstein a dit : "Oui, j'avais lu Poincaré, et jamais aucun homme
>> au monde ne m'avait subjugié comme lui". Pourtant jamais Einstein ne
>> cite
>> Poincaré dans ses écrits. Il y a là quelque chose de très étonnant si
>> l'on réfléchit bien.
>>
>> R.H.
> BABYLON TRANSLATION: "It was a mathematician who did this, and the first
> to have given the beginnings of special relativity was Henri Poincaré.
> Einstein only copied (probably helped by German doctors and
> mathematicians). In the same way that he copied Hilbert and Gross.
> Besides, how can we explain that a guy who was absolutely bad at
> mathematics was able to surpass the greatest mathematician of the time,
> and then show his virtuosity in front of hyperbolic spaces. It's absurd.
> This is religiosity. People began to worship a "divine creation" and a
> holy prophet. It's incredible to say, but it takes the genius of Hachel
> (a sort of Columbo and Sherlock Holmes) when he reflects on the
> historical behaviors of humans to understand what happened. The same
> thing happened between Jesus Christ and St. Paul (the Antichrist of
> light). Christ coming with immediately (the devil never waits a second)
> the Antichrist on his heels to distort the message, and replace it with
> a stupid doctrine of "redemption by the blood of Christ". Einstein did
> not wait three months (not even three months) to copy Poincaré's
> transformations, and by claiming "that he does not know this gentleman".
> Don't laugh friends, it's not funny. Except that before he died,
> Einstein said: "Yes, I had read Poincaré, and no man in the world had
> ever subjugated me like him." Yet Einstein never quotes Poincaré in his
> writings. There is something very surprising about this if you think
> about it."
I hate to resort to ad hominem, but Einstein's character is unavoidably
involved. He is known to have claimed not to have known of the MMX when
he wrote his 1905 paper. He also claimed to have read before the 1905
article a lengthy 1890 article with a long discussion of the MMX by
then, thus contradicting himself. I do not regard him as honest. I
regard his theory to be as fake as it can be.