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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Anyone that disagrees with this is not telling the truth ---V2
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2024 13:30:21 -0400
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On 8/18/24 8:40 AM, olcott wrote:
> On 8/18/2024 7:32 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 8/17/2024 7:29 AM, olcott wrote:
>>> void DDD()
>>> {
>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>> }
>>>
>>> _DDD()
>>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>> [00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>> [0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
>>> [00002182] 5d         pop ebp
>>> [00002183] c3         ret
>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>
>>> *It is a basic fact that DDD emulated by HHH according to*
>>> *the semantics of the x86 language cannot possibly stop*
>>> *running unless aborted* (out of memory error excluded)
>>>
>>
>> X = DDD emulated by HHH according to the semantics of the x86 language
>> Y = HHH never aborts its emulation of DDD
>> Z = DDD never stops running
>>
>> (X ∧ Y) ↔ Z
>>
> 
> x86utm takes the compiled Halt7.obj file of this c program
> https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c
> Thus making all of the code of HHH directly available to
> DDD and itself. HHH emulates itself emulating DDD.
> 
> 

So?

The problem doesn't let that in.

Hidden assumption break your "proof"

That means that the input to HHH is the WHOLE MEMORY in Halt7.obj, so 
ANY change in that is a new input, and thus every HHH sees a different 
input and can't talk about the behavior of a DIFFERENT input indicating 
what this input does.

That is like looking at 10 story office buildings for that attributes of 
cats.