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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.quux.org!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertitaylor) Newsgroups: sci.physics,sci.math,sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: What is a photon Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 03:12:50 +0000 Organization: Rocksolid Light Message-ID: <b0f07a49a55fdc8a0ed62364687439fb@www.novabbs.org> References: <9af3e95b721801ec23446e0d70f081b3@www.novabbs.org> <101ibuk$2erne$2@dont-email.me> <7375d1095954e7c49e6d8923e414b7d9@www.novabbs.com> <09f1b4d34dc9932202999b3a6d5945e5@www.novabbs.com> <a23e4658d0f041e765c3086288cd9681@www.novabbs.com> <85e3c4c7d5d88920a8798c555903de42@www.novabbs.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="551266"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="8Ljlg8xw5cAHatvjdHGGjEHKUx9ddlqxMwQzk4UFm4k"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$TPLEyzlMciiFsbeo9RNxOuxHmvc6nx2OKpN9QeIJ2IBt7tObNWYne X-Rslight-Posting-User: d6bc49351b0faa08a25d2b434d815198335a8b45 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 1:31:10 +0000, Bertitaylor wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 10:52:56 +0000, rhertz wrote: > >> On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 3:13:59 +0000, Bertietaylor wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 1:07:24 +0000, rhertz wrote: >>> >>>> This is MY DEFINITION of what a photon is, which merges Maxwell and >>>> Planck: >>>> >>>> A photon (Planck) is a ray of light (Maxwell), which is: >>>> >>>> - Self-propelled point-like particle that is the least component of >>>> light itself. >>> >>> Rubbish. Point particles can not bend nicely in denser medium. They >>> cannot have interference patterns. They cannot be polarized. They cannot >>> get a uniform phase front as in laser or maser. They cannot diffract. >>> There is no way they can create standing wave patterns. >> >> >> >> >> Bertietaylor, YOUR LACK OF CRITICAL THINKING AND MULTIDIMENSIONAL >> ANALYSIS IS APPALLING. YOU NEED TO RESET YOURSELF AND FIND OUT WHAT IS >> WRONG WITH YOUR MIND. > > Instead of shouting repeat Arindam's rail gun experiments that update > Newtonian laws, throw out thermodynamics by busting inertia, and totally > chuck out the pure nonsenses of relativity and quantum. They bring back > aether. Make the universe Sanatana that is eternal and infinite. >> >> IT'S NOT THE POINT-LIKE PARTICLE WHICH BENDS OR CREATE INTERFERENCE >> PATTERNS, MAN. > > Of course not so energy does not travel in quanta. That is pure nonsense > Aether travels as electromagnetic waves from any radiation through > aether. >> >> IT'S DUE TO THEIR ASSOCIATED ELECTRICAL AND MAGNETIC FIELDS, WHICH ARE >> SELF-GENERATED AND SELF-SUSTAINED FOREVER, ACROSS HUGE DISTANCES OF >> BILLIONS OF LY. > > So no point of thinking of them as quanta for they do not go linearly > from one point to the other. Energy is radiated from radiators long and > short depending upon their lengths. Gamma rays are from nuclear sized > distances. > > WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof > > Bertietaylor (Arindam's celestial cyberdogs and his only friends on > Earth) >> >> WHEN TRESPASSING MEDIUMS ON ITS LONG JOURNEY ON SPACE, BOTH FIELDS ADAPT >> TO CORRECT THE SPEED OF SUCH PARTICLE (AKA PHOTON). There is no particle called photon. Just an aetheric disturbance caused by the varying electric field. When the em field hits a conductor it creates a current causing heat. When it hits a medium like glass it both refracts and reflects. The latter to the extent the electric field gets attenuated at the boundary. >> >> ALWAYS, SINCE 1865 AND 1901, BOTH THEORIES WERE THE EXACT REPRESENTATION >> OF A TOP-DOWN APPROACH (MAXWELL) AND A BOTTOM-UP APPROACH (PLANCK). All Planck did rubbish but not as ridiculous as Einsteinian theories. >> >> THAT YOU CAN'T SEE IT OR UNDERSTAND IT SHOWS THAT YOU ARE NOT A DEEP >> THINKER, AND I PITY YOU FOR IT. Arindam sets physics back on the rails. As the greatest genius of all time that is but the natural thing for him to do. >> >> GIVE YOURSELF A CHANCE TO UNDERSTAND BOTH MODELS SIMULTANEOUSLY, AND >> YOU'LL FIND THE TRUTH THAT HAS BEEN NEGLECTED FOR A CENTURY, DUE TO >> FUCKING IMBECILES LIKE THE QUANTUM GUYS, WHO PRETENDED (VERY ENCOURAGED) >> TO UNDERSTAND THE WORLD IN A WAY MUCH MORE COMPLEX THAN WHAT IS NEEDED. Gosh you are nuts. One moment you curse Arindam for outing the quantum bunkum then next moment you are outing the quantum bunkum. Stealing Arindam's credit, huh. Typical. >> >> EITHER IN RADIO ENGINEERING OR IN QUANTUM PHYSICS, THE FUNDAMENTALS ARE >> THE SAME. THIS IS WHAT ALLOWED PROGRESS IN PHOTONICS AS WELL AS ANYTHING >> RELATED TO RADIO TELECOM, RANGING, ETC. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>> >>>> - It's a carrier of energy (Planck) that is emitted/absorbed by >>>> electrons that >>>> are orbiting atoms, which have different levels of energy. >>> >>> Forget energy. That is trader talk from Jewish physics. It is force that >>> is the keyword. Aether is back thanks to Arindam and all the >>> extraordinary bungling wrapped by math gibberish is out. >>>> >>>> - It's created as if space of any kind (Maxwell) IGNITES under such >>>> discharge >>>> causing that the point-like energy oscillates with electric and >>>> magnetic fields >>>> in quadrature, with speed depending on the refraction index of the >>>> media. >>> >>> Blah >>> >>> WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof >>> >>> Bertietaylor >>>> >>>> - Under classic physics (Maxwell, unaware of Planck discovery) photons >>>> are not >>>> perceived as a sum of enormous amounts of ray of light (each ray >>>> linked to a >>>> bounded electron). On the opposite side, under Planck vision, light is >>>> composed >>>> of a large amount of photons, each one with energy E=hf. >>>> >>>> - The confusion between classic and quantum physics is due to the >>>> interpretation >>>> of what light is. In Maxwell's world, light is the sum (coherent or >>>> not) of huge >>>> amounts of ray of light (each one a photon), and is expressed in terms >>>> of energy >>>> per unit area. In Planck's world, light is the sum (coherent or not) >>>> of huge >>>> amount of photons, each one carrying energy E=hf. >>>> >>>> - The speed of the photon or the ray of light is defined by Maxwell, in >>>> terms of >>>> the permittivity and permeability of the medium. The collision of the >>>> emitted >>>> energy per atom is what ignites the medium, creating the point-like >>>> particle. >>>> >>>> - The classic representation of light as a sinusoidal wave is just an >>>> abstraction >>>> used for more than a century, representing the behavior of the >>>> electrical field. >>>> >>>> - There is not a dual behavior of light. This "paradox" is caused by the >>>> confusion >>>> when light is analyzed entirely (Maxwell) or at its least expression >>>> (Planck). >>>> Top-down versus bottom-up appreciation of light. >>>> >>>> - But the point-like structure (the photon) has always been there since >>>> 1865- >>>> >>>> >>>> Absolute truth has been spoken. >>> >>> -- > > -- --